Good day for poker

[BrianSwa]

ok so im not trying to brag even though Im a world champion but I deposited $50 into full tilt for something to do. Well I found out I actully need that money this week so I withdrew it a couple hours later and had about $8 left on there well I got into a all in at a crappy change table and ended up with about $29. Well now I took this to 2/4....I know not good bankroll for it but I was either going broke or winning alot. Well about 30 minutes playing these idiots that kept overplaying their TPTK and I have about $ 110. Yippie I have a mini roll. Now im playing .25/.50 and some micro NL, I really want to build this roll high so playing the best i can.

[BrianSwa]

Dealer: Hand #132618059
Dealer: ipeefreelee posts the small blind of $1
Dealer: stormswa posts the big blind of $2
Dealer: You have been dealt [Ah Qc]
Dealer: chokenpoke raises to $4
Dealer: smike666 folds
Dealer: lhal calls $4
Dealer: ipeefreelee folds
Dealer: ipeefreelee adds $26.50
Dealer: stormswa calls $2
Dealer: The flop is [As 8s 3c]
Dealer: stormswa checks
Dealer: chokenpoke bets $2
Dealer: lhal calls $2
Dealer: stormswa calls $2
Dealer: The turn is [Td]
Dealer: stormswa checks
Dealer: chokenpoke bets $4
Dealer: lhal calls $4
Dealer: stormswa calls $4
Dealer: The river is [5d]
Dealer: stormswa checks
Dealer: chokenpoke bets $4
Dealer: lhal folds
Dealer: stormswa calls $4
Dealer: chokenpoke shows a pair of Aces
Dealer: stormswa shows a pair of Aces
Dealer: stormswa wins the pot ($38) with a pair of Aces


now im no poker expert but after I flat called the flop and the turn dont you think I might have ace. I didnt raise him because he was new to table and couldnt put him on a hand so thought he might just have AK but felt I had odds to call him down.

[BrianSwa]

Dealer: Hand #132636784
Dealer: stormswa posts the small blind of $1
Dealer: DJPlayedYa posts the big blind of $2
Dealer: You have been dealt [Kc As]
Dealer: Wentin folds
Dealer: lhal calls $2
Dealer: BuschWood calls $2
Dealer: stormswa raises to $4
Dealer: DJPlayedYa calls $2
Dealer: lhal calls $2
Dealer: BuschWood calls $2
Dealer: The flop is [Jc 9h Qs]
Dealer: stormswa bets $2
Dealer: DJPlayedYa folds
Dealer: lhal calls $2
Dealer: BuschWood calls $2
Dealer: The turn is [2s]
Dealer: stormswa checks
Dealer: lhal checks
Dealer: BuschWood checks
Dealer: The river is [Tc]
Dealer: stormswa bets $4
Dealer: lhal raises to $8
Dealer: BuschWood calls $8
Dealer: stormswa raises to $12
Dealer: lhal calls $4
Dealer: BuschWood calls $4
Dealer: stormswa shows a straight, Ace high
Dealer: lhal mucks
Dealer: BuschWood mucks
Dealer: stormswa wins the pot ($56) with a straight, Ace high

[ChipFish]

Over/Under on Brian going Broke: 16 hours.

[junYUN]

lol well i guess if you go to the table hoping to get lucky then it doesn't matter if you lose it??

[HartAttack]

Ill take the over, if I was gettin cards like that and I went broke after 16 hours, I would definitely be kinda peeved lol

On a side note, nice plays, I liked the call with A-q, was semi-risky but definitely a play you had to do.

[BrianSwa]

yea with the $29 I didnt care if I lost it but now that its $150 I care alot so got off the $2/$4 tables and moved down to $10 NL and .25/.50.

chip what are the odds on me keeping it because if there bad I might want a piece of that.

[BrianSwa]

Well since you dont know me very well let me update you. I have a real bad habit of playing way above my bankroll, lost 2k in one night because of this. That is why I get the nice comment from Chip, latley ive been doing alot better controling it but every once in awhile I still slip up.

[BlibbityBlabbity]

I personally don't like the AQ play at all. Rather than call ALL the way through a hand with TPgoodK, wouldn't you put a raise in there and find out where you are at? If your intention was to see it down a raise while it was cheap might have got you a free card when the bets doubled on the turn...

[BrianSwa]

honestly....I was skeered.

[Aequitas58]

I wouldn't have raised here. "Finding out where you're at" is a very power thing, but in this situation, I don't think it would have done him any good. He was first to act, so if he bets out, and is raised, he'll probably still call w/ TPgK ... I would. If he check-raises, and both players flat call, he's not in too much better shape b/c now he's gotta lead out on the flop.

What information did he gain by raising?

Oh, and being first to act would probably make it hard to do a free card play. Checking from first position on the turn after check-raising the flop is a huge sign of weakness. If his opponents had any wherewithall, they would bet into him to "see where they were at."

[BlibbityBlabbity]

I absolutely HATE reading these hand histories. Again, sorry I thought he lead into you on the flop....

AEQ, right on both points. Neither would really work being first to act.

[PShabi]

Lou, with all due respect, GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR FUCKING ASS!!!!

Your brain has to be warped from all the studying. This isn't NL. I'm not sure what "free card" he would be wanting here. He doesn't wanna give free cards so why would he take one? That hand was played terribly.

Pre-flop: fine

Flop - Bet. Let's say ChokeaBitch isn't a total donkey (I know, unlikely) and raises his Ace. Okay, you don't get the 2nd customer, most of the time but he stays because after looking at the action, he probably had a flush draw. You call and you've got gained 4 bets now. Worst case scenario is he doesn't raise and you get 2 bets. You're getting 4 small bets (2BB) here with the draw in.

Turn - If he raised on the flop, you can check here. He bets, flush draw calls, RAISE!!!!!!! Wow, they both call. You've just made another 4 BB.

River - Lead, call, fold. Another BB.

So, I would've made 7BB POST FLOP playing it that way. Brian made 4.

Limit is about maximizing your value when you've got the best hand. Not pussyfooting around trying to "feel."

[Aequitas58]

Hmm. I still like my play. Can anyone else support or deny Shabi's comments?

And yea, my brain is in rough shape.

[PShabi]

It should be. Mine is too. Different reasons.

[BrianSwa]

I think both plays have their + and - about them. Shabi play seems to maximize profit if you sure you have the best hand. Lou is basicly to protect your money when your not sure you have best hand.


the best play for me I believe is Lou's as I knew nothing about player at the time.

[PShabi]

See, I always assume I'm playing with Donkeys until I have a reason to believe otherwise.

No matter what you believe, letting that 3rd man just call along and not making him pay with that flush draw is not the correct play long run.

[Talking Poker]

Wall time or poker time? If it's wall time, I'll take the over (chances are he won't play much in the next 16 hours), but it's it poker time, I'll take the under.

Haven't read the HH yet, but it sounds interesting. I'll check it out tomorrow sometime...

[BrianSwa]

vegas odds may be better for me now 4 hours into my $150 bankroll and im at $250. Might take me a little longer to go through the extra $100.

[Talking Poker]

Bummer that you busted out of the June Contest and couldn't get back in... sounds like you're rolling along now.

[GeoffM]

Shabi, say what you like, I am now convinced you are from Compton .

So anyway, I'm dating a girl that lives in the hood now, any idea what the best way would be to dodge some bullets.

DISCLAIMER: I just hijacked this MFen thread .

[BrianSwa]

these people playing really stupid though. Sitting at $312 right now but they will call $10 all in's with TPTK almost every time.

[PShabi]

Get a vest.

Get a gun.

Shoot back.

[PShabi]

By the way, "hood" in Canada means that they've had a "negro" siting in the last 24 hours.

[GeoffM]

Um, no not exactly.

You are talking about the most multi-cultural country in the world, you know .