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Old 12-13-06, 02:17 AM
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Iif you receive and email from NETELLER with something similar to what is below.....DO NOT log into neteller through the link they provide.

This email is not from neteller and you will have your funds stolen if you do.


It is a scam to get your log in details....


Looks a little like this, well exactly i think.


"Dear Customer,

According to our registries, we have recently detected that your account has been accessed from different IP addresses. This could be happening because your computer's IP address is dynamic and varies constantly, or because you have used more than one computer to access your account. Due to this event and in fulfillment with the current legislation, we have updated our computer systems to offer greater security to our clients, thus we will need you to access your account and verify it's recent activity. The security procedures require that you verify the activity in your account before December 14th, 2006. Otherwise, passed this date, our automated computer security system will suspend your account indefinitely.

In order to access your account and to verify it's activity, you must click on the link below:"
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Old 12-13-06, 02:33 AM
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I get about 50 of these a day (exaggeration, but I do get a lot) from PayPal, ebay, Washington Mutual, and countless other financial institutions where I don't even have accounts! It's called "fishing" and is apparently incredibly effective.

DO NOT click on links sent to you in emails. Go to the site directly. If you do click on the link for some reason, be damn sure the address in your address bar says:
(in this example)
and not something like

or

or

or
whatever else.
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Old 12-13-06, 04:34 AM
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uhhuh. i thought id point this one out as it looks completely genuine to the last detail
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Old 12-13-06, 06:51 AM
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I think we all get junk like this pretty often, but I think it's good to point it out now and then as well for a reminder.

I think the dead giveaway that you have been screwed is if there is not an "S" at the end of the httpS:// in the address bar after log in you know you need to notify the real site you gave away your password by accident immediatly.

All of paypal's and neteller's sites post log in are secure sites and would have the "S" at the end to signify it.
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Old 12-13-06, 07:17 AM
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I'm pretty sure I never get junk mail. I have no idea why, but I seriously never get stuff like this.
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I'll never use links on emails. If I get an email from neteller or something, I will delete, sign out of email, then go to the page manually.
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Old 12-13-06, 01:08 PM
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While I agree with what you are saying, you can't seriously think the "dead giveaway" is the absence or presence of the letter "s" as opposed to a completely different domain name like the examples I listed above. And "after log in," isn't it too late???

I mean, I know people fall for this shit all the time, but I've never really understood how.
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Old 12-13-06, 04:13 PM
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Once, in a reply to a thread or in a PM you told me you consider most average people to be either drunk, stupid, or both.

That would explain how they fall for stuff like this. I guess enough people must fall for it or the scammers wouldn't bother trying.
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uhhhhh. Yeah, they all do.

Of course, you left off the link for some reason, so we can't see which of the above examples I listed it matches most closely. But I'm guessing it's one of them. The link sure as hell wasn't or else there wouldn't be a problem.
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How can you send an e-mail from any address? Or how can you make it look like it's from any address? Man, I'm confused.
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oh man. basic SMTP manipulation 101. I remember doing this shit back in University using PINE. I used to send my friends (X-Files fans) emails from and . Ahhh the memories.

This would be a good time to point out that 99% of those spam emails you get are not being sent from the address listed. The spammers have randomly picked/generated an email address to put in as the sender info. I've had it happen to me - some spammers have used one of my domains in the past. It sucks, but meh, whatcha gonna do?
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Old 12-16-06, 01:31 AM
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Right, of course.

As bunny will confirm, not long after PMing me earlier today, she got an email from God. Turns out his email address is and he used a subject line of "Delivery Status Notification (Failure)" even though there was no failure!!!

Oh, that wacky God.

I could send anyone an email that (at a glance) looks like it is from anyone else, with about 8 seconds of "work" (changing my name and return address) on this end. This is nothing that you haven't been able to do for years, and it's not exactly top secret technology either. It depends on your email program, but it's usually as simple as clicking on "Properties" or whatever and just changing your name and Return address. Bingo.
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