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01-25-07, 05:15 PM
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I never said the best hand was supposed to win every time....i know suckouts happen....but i say this is how im running....which i am.....while playing good poker....which i am.....Its a bad beat....thats why its here
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01-25-07, 05:30 PM
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Always is a bit of a strong word. I would do this sometimes. And I didnt just do it with AA. I have read in more than one source of professionals using min-raises in their tourney play. Gavin Smith and Lee Nelson (won the 2006 Aussie tourney) off the top of my head.
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01-25-07, 05:36 PM
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Yes. You are the best.
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#30
01-25-07, 05:38 PM
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They may be a correct situation deep in a tourney with short stacks for min-REraising (are you sure that's what they are doing, and not just opening for a minimum raise?), but I am sure it's the exception and not the rule.
I wish you had posted this yesterday, I saw Gavin Smith at the Borgata last night and would have asked him about it. |
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01-25-07, 05:39 PM
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You read good....i dont see the word best in there at all..
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01-25-07, 05:41 PM
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I actually posted his article (gavin's) about it. They talk about opening with it. I could probably dig it out.
I think part of my problem experimenting with that is maybe i am not a good post-flop player. That plays into it too (being able to get off a hand - being able to buy the pot after the flop if you miss, etc). |
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01-25-07, 05:45 PM
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Negreanu does this too, so you're talking about two of the best post-flop players on the planet. If you can play like they can post flop... min-raise till your fingers bleed.
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#34
01-25-07, 05:47 PM
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here is the thread...
here is the actual 'tip' from gavin smith at fulltilt archives:
here is the TP thread where i posted it for discussion: LOL at the line you have about gavin passing out during that $30 SitNGo we played with him. Good times....good times.... Going from playing with Gavin Smith in the Bahamas to messing around with $25 PLO at UB. How times have changed. |
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01-25-07, 06:34 PM
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he did not make a mistake preflop. HU and the pot is offering him 2.33:1 he is easily a money favorite vs your range.
Its even borderline to say he made a FTOP error preflop. He was a 2.44:1 dog vs the precise hand you held. There is way more than an additional 4.6% equity in implied odds there.
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01-25-07, 10:15 PM
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You were at the Borgota last night??
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#38
01-26-07, 02:22 AM
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There is a huge, huge, HUGE difference between opening (the first raise) for 2.5x the BB and MIN REraising (three betting by reraising exactly what your opponent raised) for the second raise.... The first has it merits - ie, Gavin's article on Small Pot poker. The second, IMO, is nothing more than asking for trouble. I really think it should be done never, even if you are the best pot flop player in the world. |
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01-26-07, 02:24 AM
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Seriously... you might as well be writing in Latin. He doesn't get the most basic of principles, so no way is he going to get the numbers or understand "ranges" and "implied odds" and such. Let it go.
He's not the best, mind you, but he's really good. Very little room for improvement there... 
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#40
01-26-07, 02:26 AM
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Wow, you guys really dont want to let anything go. I understand a lot more about the game of poker than people give me credit for. But ive said that and it doesnt matter....im obviously going to have to play 2/4 before i can even have a shot at being considered good
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#41
01-26-07, 02:28 AM
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Yeah... not for poker though (but I definitely had the itch). My buddy is getting married on Saturday, so I flew up to PA and we went out for a bachelor night last night.... He doesn't play poker, but he likes to gamble, so we played about 10 hours worth of table games (Pai Gow, BJ, Let It Ride, the "Texas Hold Em" table game, roulette, slots, etc). Earned enough comp dollars for a few meals and won a little coin in the process too. It was a fun night. I love that casino too. Top notch.
If the wedding wasn't Saturday, I would have played in a satellite to the Winter Open for sure. I LOVE the tourney structure they have at the Borgata for the big events... |
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#42
01-26-07, 02:31 AM
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Your roll and the limits you play have nothing to do with people's opinion of your game. The hands you post have a LITTLE to do with it. It's your failure to understand when we explain the errors you are making and your insistence that you are "playing good" when you clearly are not that makes us think what we do.
Did you read that link to the post I made way back when? If not, you should. It explains exactly why you think you're better than we think you are. Basically, it boils down to you not knowing any better. I just think it's a shame you aren't willing to accept that and to try to learn, so you can improve. |
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01-26-07, 02:39 AM
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Its a shame that you dont think im trying to learn. I know this may be a stretch, but i would be willing to bet i have read more on poker than anyone on the forum, but thats just what i feel. This is one situation that if you had seen ALL of my recent play you will realize i have corrected....i still dont like raising so much in this particular spot
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01-26-07, 11:13 AM
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Wow. What's the point of caring what people think about "how good you are?" Who cares what "pshabi" or "reeldeal" think about your "game." LOL. Seriously, let results show. Play in league events and win. Beat up on more players HU, as you did with Boobie. (LUCK!) LOL.
You're making yourself look like a whiny little bitch, brutha.
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01-26-07, 04:36 PM
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Ok. If you want to learn, stop arguing with them and go back and read my explanation of why your opponent did not make a mistake. If you have questions about the reasoning in my post, I'd be happy to chunk the math a lttle more.
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01-26-07, 05:56 PM
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I can admit I'm that way, and I'm still a fairly new poker player to online and cash games (besides home games of course). I think that just about sums it up. You can't win everytime with AA,KK,QQ,etc. Even though you'd love too. Play the hand correctly, and you should be up in the LONG run (not short term) 
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01-26-07, 06:17 PM
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Until a couple of days ago, I was DOWN for the month with AA, despite being nicely up overall. I'm up a whopping 1.38 BB/hand with it now, which is just ridiculous. For comparison sake, I'm up about 5 BB/hand with KK and QQ.
But it's just variance. It happens. I'm still down with AKo, but I usually am. 
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