general league rules - Page 2

Talking Poker · #26 11-30-05, 04:35 PM

Wasn't jumping. Was just commenting on this that came completely out of the blue. Scroll up and see for yourself:

Whatever, dude. I'm not playing this game with you today. Take your toys and go home if you want. See you tomorrow, when you've hopefully remembered to take your meds.

BrianSwa · #27 11-30-05, 04:35 PM

what am i doing that sooo wrong? all i did is say i didnt want to be part of it this time around and got jumped all over by TP (as usual). Ill still be happy to help setting it up if BB needs the help or the info but this time I just want to watch. I dont understand what the problem is here.

BrianSwa · #28 11-30-05, 04:36 PM

I dont appritiate the meds comments and I would appritiate it if you would refrain from them. Its not funny and I dont say that kinda crap to you so please dont to me.

Lets just end it right there.

JDMcNugent7 · #29 11-30-05, 04:37 PM

No big problem i guess - but u had a good idea and the idea was getting alot of interest - then somebody suggests (OH NO - $15 more for the buy in) and u JUMP to conclusions rather than expressing ur opinions and say "im out have fun without me" out of nowhere - not necessary

BrianSwa · #30 11-30-05, 04:40 PM

Like i said im not putting $20 into something that might totally bomb, id be happy to help behind the scenes but as for playing I leave that up to you all. Pay $20 and have 4 people show up to the game hardly seems worth it to me. The way people have had such a hard time getting together here in past I wouldnt pay more then $5.

Talking Poker · #31 11-30-05, 04:41 PM

Exactly. I'm on the same page as JD here.

As for me jumping on you, that was not my intent. I thought it was odd how in the middle of the brainstorming though, when ONE person suggested something other than what you did, you made that abrupt post about leaving. I guess it just reminded me of the other 500 times you've done similar things, hence my "That sounds about right" comment.

Consider it dropped. Back to actual league discussion and less SWAdrama.

JDMcNugent7 · #32 11-30-05, 04:44 PM

Okay, that is fine with all of us u can make ur own decisions- but that post above is sure ALOT better and more helpful as to where you're coming from than this:
But its done now , u dont want to play u dont have to

BrianSwa · #33 11-30-05, 04:45 PM

BB mentioned horse, I think horse tornies are only availible at full tilt. Do they have them possible on stars also? Also if you run them on stars someone like TP will have to set up the tornies because if I remember correctly you have to have a certain # of Player Points to start private tornies. I think most people have the most money in stars so that would be the obvious choice and seems like tornies are easiest to set up there.

TP do you have any problem holding the entry fees until the end of the league?

Talking Poker · #34 11-30-05, 04:45 PM

Do you have no conecpt of what brainstorming is? Why are you making a huge deal that you aren't going to be in this league? I don't see 10 posts from anyone else saying that because of ONE PERSON'S SUGGESTION (which is far from set in stone), they won't be in the league, so why do you feel the need to keep saying it over and over again? No one cares and more importantly, we get it already! You're not playing. Ok, fine.

If you feel the need to tell us 10 more times, maybe I could make a new "Brian won't be in the league" thread for you to talk to yourself in, so you don't have to keep cluttering up this one.

Damn.

Talking Poker · #35 11-30-05, 04:45 PM

Of course not.

BrianSwa · #36 11-30-05, 04:48 PM

ummmm

BrianSwa · #37 11-30-05, 04:49 PM

what you all think of the point system i posted earlier?

Point System: The point system will be the same as we have used in the previous leagues. It is a simple reverse point system with the top 3 spots earning extra points. Last place earns one point, each place up from last earns another point. The top 3 spots each get additional points (5 for first, 3 for second, 1 for third). Here is an example with 10 players. Your best 6 scores (out of the 7 weeks) will count towards your overall point total.

we need at least like 10 peope to make this point system work.

jaeh00d · #38 11-30-05, 04:53 PM

so what is it w can agree on? I say 20 dollars is fine but lets all come to an agreement.

I like the idea of many different games. I think maybe weshould very the price of some of the buy ins. some five and maybe some 10. Maybe even have soe sort of a main event at 20 dollars. I dont know you tell me. Just a suggestion.

But let me run out of here quick before brianswa comes after me for making a suggestion.

jaeh00d · #39 11-30-05, 04:54 PM

I might just be zoned out here and being dumb. But explain that further i really didnt pick it up.

BrianSwa · #40 11-30-05, 04:56 PM

what is this main event stuff? is it gonna go by points per torney because if it is then the person that wins the last torney could still be in last place in league.

unless you want to do a sort of bracket thing and then at that case you can have the top finishers throughout the league play in a "MAIN EVENT"

BrianSwa · #41 11-30-05, 04:57 PM

say there is 20 people in torney week 1 torney 1

last place 1st person out gets 1 point
next person out gets 2 points
next person out gets 3 points
etc
etc
etc

until you get to top 3 and they get the point in the scale plus the bonus points for each place.

so third would get 18 points for scale plus 1 bonus point = 19
second would get 19 points for scale plus 3 bonus point = 22
1st gets 20 points for scale plus 5 bonus points to get total of = 25

its alot easier then it sounds.

jaeh00d · #42 11-30-05, 05:02 PM

ok so the point system souds very good. But what is the point of a point system that you would win all of the entry fee's in the end if its only 5 dllars per person, when every tourney minumum is going to be just over 5 dollars. Does it make snese to you to play very verygood win through points and in the end only getlike 40 dollars through the points. I would say that is pretty low. Thats where i suggested a 15 - 20 buy in tha way the point system in the end actually matters and you get paid for it. I would say if its a 5 dollar for the league then just forget the pont system all together because it doesnt payout much at all.

you tell me

BrianSwa · #43 11-30-05, 05:05 PM

I understand your point by making it $5 was hopeing to get more people involved in it. usually it get divided 60%30%10% for 1st 2nd and 3rd at end of leaugue, I was hopeing by having low buy in you can attract about 25 people to this $125 prize pool and any money you make along the way. This was brought up more of a way for everyone to have fun playing together rather then a way to make money.

jaeh00d · #44 11-30-05, 05:10 PM

well i understand what youre saying. so its either more people less money or less people more money. Or maybe make a compomise andmeet in the middle and make it 10 dollars. And have buy ins between 5 and 10 dollars.

Make it so top 6 in the league are eligible for something special at the end. maybe call t final event

BrianSwa · #45 11-30-05, 05:13 PM

that sounds dooable to me, just gotta make sure you use like top 6 or 7 scores throught the league so its fair to everyone. I can garantee you not everyone is gonna make all the torneis. Also gotta try to set them at different times am/pm...

jaeh00d · #46 11-30-05, 05:18 PM

Exactly!

This isnt something that we can start within the next couple of days. I say its something that we need to plan for a while. Take our time with it that way we can get it run right. And actually get everyones input and just make it imply a majority rulesthat is the most civil way we can do this. So i think we need to talk all of this over. Maybe even attempt a minumum of 25 people i dont know if that can be done but it sounds right Because remember like you said we wil not e able to get evryone and not verone is going to want to play omaha and stud if we do have it.

So we need to plan this for a while, and figure out an actual schedule.

jaeh00d · #47 11-30-05, 05:22 PM

Or how about if its a 10 dollar league buy in and we have minumum of 20 players. The top 6 players using the point system will all meet for a " WPT Style Final Table " for the entrance fee prize pool. I thik that sounds nice it gives you something to shoot for in the end with you being consistent as lon as your earnings you take through your individual tournament earnings

BlibbityBlabbity · #48 11-30-05, 05:23 PM

I think it sounds like $10 would be a good idea, IMO. That would give a pretty big pool and hopefully will let enough people participate.

Question 1:
Would anyone NOT participate due to the league entry fee if it was $10 (either because that is too high or because it HAS to be $20 in their opinion)?

I agree with Brian that a 25 player pool would be a "good" size BUT, if we are having 2-3 events each week, not everyone is going to show up for all of them, then I think we need to have 30+ overall to get the turnout (at least 10) for each event.I would rather see this be 18-20 minimum per event but I doubt that is going to happen (based on past results).

Question 2:
Would it be possible to have some events at a different site? For example Stars is $10+$1 and u for buyins. If we were able to also set up some other games at Full Tilt (variety of games and $5+.50 buyin) would that make sense (or would anyone have a problem with it)? Both Stars and Full Tilt are said to have good tourney structures, right?

BrianSwa · #49 11-30-05, 05:25 PM

after the holidays for sure, was thinking 2 games a week one AM and one PM, one on weekend and one on weekday. Probollly weekend one in AM, run it for a month meaning 8 games and top 5 scores just to see how it runs. If its a sucess then run it longer next time. If we have enough people then yea we can run a top 6 at end of league.

BrianSwa · #50 11-30-05, 05:28 PM

having it on multiple sites might cause problems for some. Might mean that some might have to move money around and they may not want to but I think we could put it up for a vote. I agree the $10 is a good amount. Maybe try to keep the 1st one just on stars then if its a sucess maybe next one run at multiple sites.