Hsp $500k - Page 2

Akverno · #26 11-20-07, 07:46 AM

Any chance someone wants to give a full breakdown of the hand (or post a link to a downloadable version of the video)?

The internet at the middle of bumfuck nowhere doesn't stream video very well.

jillaj · #27 11-20-07, 10:57 AM

I turned it off after a few minutes of that shit. They took what could have been the best hand on the show and turned it into unwatchable tv. Also, Sammy is a bigger sucker than I thought and Jamie continues to get people to do what he wants by talking and telling the truth. It amazes me.

Spidey44 · #28 11-20-07, 11:51 AM

Gold - Most annoying human EVER.

Talking Poker · #29 11-20-07, 12:21 PM

Wow... that's got to be the most annoying hand I've ever seen played.

And Farha is an IDIOT for checking the river when he should be 100% certain his hand is good.

I can't believe Gold's whining just saved him $185k or whatever it was Farha had left in front of him. Wow...

Also, how stupid are these guys for CALLING dark bets/raises? I mean, MAKING the dark bet/raise is one thing, but why not SEE THE FLOP before calling? It's stupid to call dark. Basically you're just doing more preflop betting (that you should have done preflop anyway) and skipping the flop betting round.

Spidey44 · #30 11-20-07, 02:01 PM

Would have only been great if Sammy doubled up. Maybe that would have shut Gold up a bit...probably not.

Kurn · #31 11-20-07, 02:06 PM

Worst aspect - some nimrod is going to go to a casino game and try to play the flop dark and then ask the dealer to deal the flop and turn all at once.

Best aspect - Doyle's comment (something like) "If my father knew I was losing money in this poker game he'd jump out of his grave and beat the crap out of me."

jillaj · #32 11-20-07, 02:06 PM

I think it would since he wasn't going to rebuy.

melioris · #33 11-21-07, 03:26 PM

that was god awful, and they were wrong, it was bad television. Who ever edits that show could have done a lot better job with that hand. Only two things were redeeming about that hand 1). Doyle getting grumpy. I love grumpy old men. 2). Gabe Kaplan did a pretty good job of trying to talk through that nonsense.

Kurn · #34 11-27-07, 08:35 AM

Last night's episode was great. Let's all learn how to overvalue top pair in huge pots *and* get away with it.

Thought I was watching $25 NL online there for a minute.

bigd007x · #35 11-27-07, 10:25 AM

lol it was like they were playing with fake chips. does anyone think that maybe this show is rigging the decks a little. i mean everytime it seems to come the perfect board for action. like sammy caught his 2 that makes a str flush and case q comes out on turn so sammy and gee can both have a set. lets not forget that mess of the hand were the 2 looses people at the table get aa and kk but hell it makes good t.v for most part.

jillaj · #36 11-27-07, 10:31 AM

I really liked last night's show as well. Man PA runs well to take 3 out of 4 against Sammy. Also Gold's fold button must be broke.

Kurn · #37 11-27-07, 10:53 AM

Not for nothin' but I have 2 points.

1. They only show the "interesting hands"

2. I can think of one guy at the table who, if he thought somebody connected with the show was stacking the deck when he had $500,000 of his own money on the table, knows people who would have no problem with (what's the right euphemism here) "taking care of" that producer.

Unless of course we're all the dupes and its a play money game.

Kurn · #38 11-27-07, 10:58 AM

Seems to me that, looking at his eyes and body language the last 2 shows, Jamie Gold doesn't have quite as high opinion about himself as a poker player as he used to.

jillaj · #39 11-27-07, 01:02 PM

It seems that he is trying to out donk Sammy. But unlike Sammy, Jamie only calls.

Invigilator · #40 11-27-07, 03:37 PM

Gold's play has definitely been going down hill during this season. It is not a very big hill granted, but it is getting worse nonetheless. Wanting to be the best bluffer is an admirable goal (I guess

), but when you play and lose that many hands, is it really a +EV tactic?

The more he played, the more bored I became. Thankfully DN took his place. I can't wait untill next week.

Nikita · #41 11-27-07, 03:55 PM

I find that Gold just likes to gamble and Farha just loves to encourage him to gamble, forcing Gold to make bad decisions.

jillaj · #42 11-27-07, 04:43 PM

DN played like a nit the first few episodes of this season. Someone must be staking him.

Reel Deal · #43 11-30-07, 04:45 PM

Catching up on some of the older episodes from season 4... here's a good line from Ep. 11:

Doyle: Did you take your diabetes medicine?
Barry: Is that one of your pick-up lines?

LOL

jillaj · #44 12-04-07, 01:15 PM

So what were everyones thoughts on last nights episode?

I only watched parts of it and need to watch the others in case I missed anything good.

Guy must be staking Benyamine. Also for a guy that shoves 600k in the middle on a flush draw, David looked awful nervous.

Kurn · #45 12-04-07, 01:56 PM

This hand is as far as I watched (during halftime of MNF). I think Benyamine knows exactly how light Guy will shove there, so his reaction to Guy flipping over his cards come from realizing that his A outs are not good.

Believing you have 45% equity if called and realizing you only have 32% for that size pot will turn anybody's stomach.

Talking Poker · #46 12-04-07, 04:01 PM

Guy is way too nice. Way too nice. If he had agreed to run it 3 or 4 or 5 times, that would have been nice, but just letting David off the hook like that (for what? $48k?) with 1.2 million in the middle is crazy...

I know he's super rich and all, but if this money is too big for these guys to lose, they shouldn't be in the game in the first place.

Kurn · #47 12-04-07, 06:50 PM

I think it's clear the money is too big, as Doyle said, especially with the overall skill level of the players. It's one thing if it's 3 big pro's and 5 or 6 whales, but that's not what this is.

I think people forget that the big game is primarily limit, and when they do rotate in a PL or NL game, the pots are capped at something like $250K.

Doyle said that the only guy who is adequately rolled for the game is Guy.

Kurn · #48 12-04-07, 09:09 PM

The rest of the show was sort of boring. best part of the broadcast was Katja's 'Stars commercial.

Gordogg · #49 12-04-07, 11:41 PM

I thought the Doyle's Room commercial with Pamela Anderson was amusing.

What a letdown that 1.2m pot hand was. Next time play it out guys.

Kurn · #50 12-05-07, 06:59 AM

Yeah, Doyle's was great, too. "Nice pair"

And forget playing the big pots straight. gabe has it right. These guys are going to deal every time that moch cash goes in. Maybe not like Guy did, but they'll always run it multiple times.