Biggest winning and losing hands for the month...

Talking Poker · #1 10-30-06, 01:32 PM

So, I just thought of an interesting idea for a thread that I think could be beneficial for everyone.

At the end of a lot of my sessions, I review my biggest winning and losing hands in Poker Tracker and analyze my play (I love the "Playback This Hand" thing). Well, I say that I do this, but I will admit that I don't do it as much as I should. I think this is a GREAT practice though, and I highly encourage you guys to start doing it if you aren't doing it already. As you are looking at these big hands, it will help you evaluate your play, regardless of whether or not you logged a winning or losing session. Were you simply lucky or unlucky, or were you playing well or playing badly? I think doing this daily is the best idea, but for the sake of this thread, let's look at the entire month of October.

What I am suggesting is this:

1. Open PT and filter your stats to show everything for this month (Filters Tab)
2. Go to the Game Notes tab, click "Get All" and then sort by "BB" - I think this is better than "Net" for those of you who are playing many different levels. This will sort your biggest winning hands to the top of the list. Click it again and it will reverse it and move your biggest losers to the top.
3. Click on the Game Number for your biggest winner and your biggest loser, copy and paste the HHs, and post them here.

With each HH (post them separately), do your best to self analyze it. If you won a monster pot by playing like a donkey and sucking out, say so. If you got all in with the nuts and lost, that's ok, but say so. And ideally, go through the HH and analyze every street (where applicable) and see if you could have played the hand better.

I haven't looked at my biggest hands for the month yet, so don't think I'm doing this in hopes of making some sort of brag post or something, because that's not the case at all. In fact, thinking back over the course of the entire month, there were definitely some hands I played pretty badly, so I'm expecting to see one of those as my biggest loser.

Anyway, if a bunch of us do this, I think it will be a good learning tool for both the posters (self analyzers) and everyone else who is reading along. And if people comment on other people's hands, that's even better.

Good idea? Let's do it!

Talking Poker · #2 10-30-06, 01:44 PM

OK, here is my biggest winner for the month.

I mostly like how I played this hand, but in hindsight, I won this monster pot because of the combination of how I played preflop and the flop and the PERFECT card hitting the turn.

Ironically, JJ was a huge loser for me for the first week of this month, but ended up being my third biggest winner, behind only KK and AA, mostly thanks to this hand, I suspect.

FullTiltPoker Game #1075974799: Table Beeline (6 max) - $3/$6 - No Limit Hold'em - 11:55:23 ET - 2006/10/07
Seat 1: joc ($1,687)
Seat 2: Troll Pie ($1,209)
Seat 3: Koreandoyle ($1,468.15)
Seat 4: unbeatable_T ($2,105.75)
Seat 5: samd20 ($1,523.55)
Seat 6: HoBobbi ($575.75)
joc posts the small blind of $3
Troll Pie posts the big blind of $6
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Troll Pie [Jc Js]
Koreandoyle folds
unbeatable_T calls $6
samd20 raises to $27
HoBobbi folds
joc calls $24
Troll Pie calls $21
This is a great spot for a squeeze with the action in front of me. I'd say I reraise here at least 90% of the time. I don't remember why I choose to just call, but I think I was hoping to play it a little bit deceptively (more like I would play a small pair)... and I just so happened to fall into the dream scenario. Then again, maybe I was gun shy because of how crappy JJ had been treating me. I honestly don't remember.
unbeatable_T calls $21
*** FLOP *** [4h Jh Td]
Dream flop. Draw heavy though.
joc checks
Troll Pie checks
Had I reraised preflop, I would have fired here, but since I didn't, I decided to go for the check raise.
unbeatable_T checks
samd20 checks
Ugh.
*** TURN *** [4h Jh Td] [4s]
Corection - woohoo!
joc checks
Troll Pie bets $64
OK, I've got the second nuts here, so obviously I'm willing to go all the way. It's time to start building this pot. I should get calls here from heart draws (drawing dead), straight draws (drawing dead) and anyone holding a 4 (drawing to 1 out) or the case J (drawing dead). This is a good spot.
unbeatable_T folds
samd20 raises to $204
Hello.
joc folds
Troll Pie raises to $623
If I had position, I may have just called here and let him lead out at the river, but because I'm first to act, I prefer to reraise right here. Hopefully he's got a big hand and will come back over the top of me. In hindsight, I think my raise here was a little bit too much, but then again, it looks like I want him to fold.
samd20 raises to $1,496.55, and is all in
Perfection.
Troll Pie calls $559, and is all in
samd20 shows [Ad 4d]
Troll Pie shows [Jc Js]
Uncalled bet of $314.55 returned to samd20
*** RIVER *** [4h Jh Td 4s] [3d]
samd20 shows three of a kind, Fours
Troll Pie shows a full house, Jacks full of Fours
Troll Pie wins the pot ($2,469) with a full house, Jacks full of Fours
samd20 adds $285.45
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2,472 | Rake $3
Board: [4h Jh Td 4s 3d]
Seat 1: joc (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 2: Troll Pie (big blind) showed [Jc Js] and won ($2,469) with a full house, Jacks full of Fours
Seat 3: Koreandoyle didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: unbeatable_T folded on the Turn
Seat 5: samd20 showed [Ad 4d] and lost with three of a kind, Fours
Seat 6: HoBobbi (button) didn't bet (folded)

I think I played the hand ok, but honestly, I don't think this is the best way to play JJ in the long run. It worked out perfectly here, but that was lucky more than anything else. Like I said, it was because of the combination of my passive preflop and flop play, plus the perfect turn card for my opponent.

Thoughts on my play are welcome, as always.

Talking Poker · #3 10-30-06, 01:50 PM

OK, time to find my biggest loser. Let's see how big of a donkey I was.

OK, there's not much to say about this hand. I think it just kinda plays itself out - "that's poker."

FullTiltPoker Game #1141003121: Table Brazilnut (6 max) - $3/$6 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:49:22 ET - 2006/10/23
Seat 1: obtrice11 ($1,338.60)
Seat 3: dano3535 ($723.25)
Seat 5: Troll Pie ($873.65)
Seat 6: bigmac2564 ($240)
Troll Pie posts the small blind of $3
dano3535: no
bigmac2564 posts the big blind of $6
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Troll Pie [3d 3c]
kate2424 (Observer): ok then
This annoying bitch was begging for money. She's go on and on about how lucky giving her money would be, and then when the person told her no, she's curse them and move on to the next person. She was annoying as shit. I didn't say anything for like the first 10 minutes, and then I finally went off on her. She actually offered to whore herself out the next time she was in IL (or wherever the one dude was from). Nice, eh?
obtrice11 raises to $21
dano3535 folds
kate2424 (Observer): u will lose ur chips in 20mins
Troll Pie calls $18
Calling hoping to flop a set. Pretty standard.
bigmac2564 calls $15
kate2424 (Observer): i want to see this
*** FLOP *** [8s 3h Th]
Good flop for me. Draw heavy though. Hoping to take it down with a check raise.
Troll Pie: nice of her, eh?
dano3535: lol i doubt it
Troll Pie checks
kate2424 (Observer): u wont win a hand for another 20mins
bigmac2564 bets $6
I love these tards that bet $6. I'll just never get it. I basically treat this as a check.
kate2424 (Observer): i promise you that
obtrice11 raises to $45
Sweet. We've got action.
Troll Pie raises to $99
I could have raised more, but I think this is ok. MOST of the time, the turn is going to be a safe card for me, and I can make a bigger bet then.
bigmac2564 folds
kate2424 (Observer): Troll, u will steal his luck staring now
Lying whore.
dano3535: i would bet with u but u have no money
obtrice11 raises to $275
Well, it's a no brainer now.
Troll Pie: good
Troll Pie raises to $852.65, and is all in
obtrice11 calls $577.65
Troll Pie shows [3d 3c]
obtrice11 shows [9h 7h]
Damn. That is a LOT of outs. He's actually a slight favorite!
kate2424 (Observer): what did i say
*** TURN *** [8s 3h Th] [Kh]
Lovely.
Troll Pie: not giving you money though
*** RIVER *** [8s 3h Th Kh] [6d]
Troll Pie shows three of a kind, Threes
obtrice11 shows a flush, King high
obtrice11 wins the pot ($1,772.30) with a flush, King high
Troll Pie is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1,774.30 | Rake $2
Board: [8s 3h Th Kh 6d]
Seat 1: obtrice11 showed [9h 7h] and won ($1,772.30) with a flush, King high
Seat 3: dano3535 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Troll Pie (small blind) showed [3d 3c] and lost with three of a kind, Threes
Seat 6: bigmac2564 (big blind) folded on the Flop

Talking Poker · #4 10-30-06, 01:51 PM

OK, who's next?

(And feel free to comment on my hands)

Talking Poker · #5 10-30-06, 03:45 PM

Let's go, losers. I know I'm not the only one playing cash games and using Poker Tracker. Post and maybe we can all learn something...

JDMcNugent7 · #6 10-30-06, 03:53 PM

I've only had PT for 6 days but from that, heres my biggest winner... ironically its against possibly the best other 3/6 player, and therefore I played it alot diff. than usual.

POKERSTARS GAME #6785819580: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($3/$6) - 2006/10/27 - 02:18:56 (ET)
Table 'Sinope V' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Championanto ($307 in chips)
Seat 2: JDpoker$tar7 ($966.40 in chips)
Seat 3: dmon7575 ($349.90 in chips)
Seat 6: straate ($2204.85 in chips)
straate: posts small blind $3
Championanto: posts big blind $6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JDpoker$tar7 [Jh Jc]
JDpoker$tar7: raises $15 to $21
dmon7575: folds
straate: raises $51 to $72
AbsoluteAces joins the table at seat #4
Championanto: folds
JDpoker$tar7: calls $51 hes very aggro, but no point to re-raise JJ right here, he'd fold TT and call with AK, or JJ+
*** FLOP *** [Jd Ah 3s]
straate: bets $96
JDpoker$tar7: calls $96 I could re-raise here, but hes gonna make a big CB like this No matter what cards he has, he easily could have nothing so I decided to see if he wants to bluff anymore
*** TURN *** [Jd Ah 3s] [6h]
straate: checks
JDpoker$tar7: checks I check back immediately to act weak, at this point i figure he was just making another CB with crap, and that I'll need him to fire again on river to make any $
*** RIVER *** [Jd Ah 3s 6h] [2h]
straate: bets $275
JDpoker$tar7: raises $523.40 to $798.40 and is all-in that worked, and luckily he actually has a hand, I played it much diff than I usually would, I even talk to this player on AIM, and he knows I would almost never play a set like that so he tries to make a heroic call
straate said, "wow this is wierd hand"
straate said, "i dont see you having"
straate said, "AJ or JJ"
straate: calls $523.40
*** SHOW DOWN ***
JDpoker$tar7: shows [Jh Jc] (three of a kind, Jacks)
straate: mucks hand
straate said, "nh"
JDpoker$tar7 collected $1936.80 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1938.80 | Rake $2
Board [Jd Ah 3s 6h 2h]
Seat 1: Championanto (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: JDpoker$tar7 showed [Jh Jc] and won ($1936.80) with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 3: dmon7575 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: straate (small blind) mucked [As Qs]

This is def. not my standard play with a set, hand would have been played much differently if I were up against a donk.

JDMcNugent7 · #7 10-30-06, 04:02 PM

Biggest loser Too bad I didnt have PT when I was playing 100/200 Limit, lost a few 5k pots there.. I remember this hand perfectly, I wanted to fold the turn so bad, and I actually planned on it, but that small as turn bet totally sucked me in. This player knew I could make big laydowns and that little turn bet worked perfect vs. me.

POKERSTARS GAME #6823036923: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($3/$6) - 2006/10/29 - 22:28:58 (ET)
Table 'Philomela' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Desco17 ($529 in chips)
Seat 2: loc101 ($539.35 in chips)
Seat 3: JDpoker$tar7 ($1253.75 in chips)
Seat 4:bbens ($690.90 in chips)
Seat 5: futbol11 ($372.70 in chips)
Seat 6: staylor30 ($219.90 in chips)
staylor30: posts small blind $3
Desco17: posts big blind $6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JDpoker$tar7 [Jc Jh]
loc101: folds
JDpoker$tar7: raises $15 to $21
Ribbens: raises $39 to $60
futbol11: folds
staylor30: folds
Desco17: folds
JDpoker$tar7: calls $39
*** FLOP *** [3c 3h 9h]
JDpoker$tar7: checks
Ribbens: bets $86
JDpoker$tar7: calls $86
*** TURN *** [3c 3h 9h] [3s]
JDpoker$tar7: checks
Ribbens: bets $106
JDpoker$tar7: raises $794 to $900 I HATED pushing, my gut couldnt stop telling me to fold, but that little turn bet is what got me, I was like oh okay, maybe he actually is weak, and pushed
Ribbens: calls $438.90 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [3c 3h 9h 3s] [9c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
JDpoker$tar7: shows [Jc Jh] (a full house, Threes full of Jacks)
Ribbens: shows [Ad Ac] (a full house, Threes full of Aces)
Ribbens collected $1387.80 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1390.80 | Rake $3
Board [3c 3h 9h 3s 9c]
Seat 1: Desco17 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: loc101 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: JDpoker$tar7 showed [Jc Jh] and lost with a full house, Threes full of Jacks
Seat 4: Ribbens showed [Ad Ac] and won ($1387.80) with a full house, Threes full of Aces
Seat 5: futbol11 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: staylor30 (small blind) folded before Flop

Boobie Lover · #8 10-30-06, 04:15 PM

I don't currently have PokerTracker as I'm away from my usual computer, but I believe the biggest winning hand (and probably the showcase of why Bodog is such easy money) from October.

Talking Poker · #9 10-30-06, 04:24 PM

What is with all the JJ? It's no wonder people generally consider that one of the hardest hands to play.

I like how you played your winning hand, JD. I may have played it differently and bet the turn, but other than that, I like it preflop and on the flop. And the river is an obvious all in.

Talking Poker · #10 10-30-06, 04:26 PM

Holy shit.

Were you at all worried he had a monster, or is this type of crap standard in that game? Do you play to the felt regularly with TPTK, even in the face of major aggression?

Boobie Lover · #11 10-30-06, 04:32 PM

He was like 70/40 (VPIP/preflop raise), and would bet really small if he had a big hand and overbet when he was weak. He's probably the worst 5/10 NL player I have ever played against.

jillaj · #12 10-30-06, 04:33 PM

On strictly BB here is my biggest hand of the month.

FullTiltPoker Game #1143690234: Table Briggs (6 max) - $1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:45:17 ET - 2006/10/24
Seat 1: mossboss18 ($257.30)
Seat 2: 1StackHiSociety ($196)
Seat 3: rakk ($266.45)
Seat 5: JGO113 ($233.30)
Seat 6: Jillaj ($187)
Jillaj posts the small blind of $1
mossboss18 posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Jillaj [Kc Ks]
1StackHiSociety calls $2
rakk folds
JGO113 raises to $9
Weinbeck sits down
Jillaj raises to $20
mossboss18 folds
Weinbeck adds $100
1StackHiSociety folds
JGO113 calls $11
*** FLOP *** [Qh 6d 6c]
Jillaj bets $26
JGO113 calls $26
*** TURN *** [Qh 6d 6c] [7c]
Jillaj checks
He was aggressive and figured I could get most from him check raising.
JGO113 bets $48
Jillaj raises to $108
JGO113 has 15 seconds left to act
JGO113 raises to $168
Considering I have Kings wich normally means I am a dog to any random hand I figured to see 2 6 sooted or something like that.
Jillaj calls $33, and is all in
JGO113 shows [Qd Kd]
Jillaj shows [Kc Ks]
Uncalled bet of $27 returned to JGO113
*** RIVER *** [Qh 6d 6c 7c] [5h]
JGO113 shows two pair, Queens and Sixes
Jillaj shows two pair, Kings and Sixes
Jillaj wins the pot ($375) with two pair, Kings and Sixes
JGO113 adds $153.70
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $378 | Rake $3
Board: [Qh 6d 6c 7c 5h]
Seat 1: mossboss18 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: 1StackHiSociety folded before the Flop
Seat 3: rakk didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: JGO113 (button) showed [Qd Kd] and lost with two pair, Queens and Sixes
Seat 6: Jillaj (small blind) showed [Kc Ks] and won ($375) with two pair, Kings and Sixes

jillaj · #13 10-30-06, 04:41 PM

Here is biggest BB loss of the month. Funny thing is that it isn't in 25 net losses.

FullTiltPoker Game #1066294079: Table Edgewood (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:55:58 ET - 2006/10/04
Seat 1: LafNowCryL8r ($44.75)
Seat 2: Da Poka Playa ($145.05)
Seat 3: BennyTC ($69.20)
Seat 4: piacentini0351 ($13.05)
Seat 5: Idance4Dollars ($35)
Seat 6: Jillaj ($69.50)
Idance4Dollars posts the small blind of $0.50
Jillaj posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Jillaj [As Qc]
LafNowCryL8r calls $1
Da Poka Playa calls $1
BennyTC calls $1
piacentini0351 calls $1
Idance4Dollars folds
Jillaj raises to $5
Notice my great position and size of raise. Really nice play
LafNowCryL8r calls $4
Da Poka Playa calls $4
BennyTC folds
piacentini0351 folds
*** FLOP *** [7c Jd 7h]
Jillaj bets $13
Was hopin for a fold.
LafNowCryL8r folds
Da Poka Playa calls $13
*** TURN *** [7c Jd 7h] [Qs]
Jillaj checks
Da Poka Playa bets $43.50
Jillaj raises to $51.50, and is all in
Was really hopin he had a jack here and figured what the hell it is only 50 bucks.
Da Poka Playa calls $8
Jillaj shows [As Qc]
Da Poka Playa shows [Jc Qh]
Nice, fucker had the jack i was hopin for
*** RIVER *** [7c Jd 7h Qs] [Kh]
Jillaj shows two pair, Queens and Sevens
Da Poka Playa shows two pair, Queens and Jacks
Da Poka Playa wins the pot ($143.50) with two pair, Queens and Jacks
Jillaj adds $100
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $146.50 | Rake $3
Board: [7c Jd 7h Qs Kh]
Seat 1: LafNowCryL8r folded on the Flop
Seat 2: Da Poka Playa showed [Jc Qh] and won ($143.50) with two pair, Queens and Jacks
Seat 3: BennyTC folded before the Flop
Seat 4: piacentini0351 (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Idance4Dollars (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: Jillaj (big blind) showed [As Qc] and lost with two pair, Queens and Sevens

I think this was my last hand at .50/1 NL. It couldn't keep my attention and droppin 100 or the 69 I lost here didn't really bother me so I moved up for good instead of splitting time. Was a very good decision.

lightfungus · #14 10-30-06, 08:03 PM

Biggest winner at +97BB or something

FullTiltPoker Game #1138289599: Table Racel (6 max) - $1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 13:10:44 ET - 2006/10/23
Seat 1: ieatyourmoney ($592.10)
Seat 2: Ojman ($279.05)
Seat 3: GreenMagnet ($367.80)
Seat 4: shawn ($96.45)
Seat 5: MatCauthon66 ($206)
Seat 6: pokerplyrdpa ($291.80)
Ojman posts the small blind of $1
GreenMagnet posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GreenMagnet [Ks As]
shawn folds
MatCauthon66 folds
pokerplyrdpa folds
ieatyourmoney raises to $7
Ojman calls $6
GreenMagnet raises to $24 Pretty standard bet pot raise
ieatyourmoney calls $17
Ojman calls $17
*** FLOP *** [7h Ac Ad]
Ojman checks
GreenMagnet bets $72 I had history with this guy, and I felt the only way I was gonna make any money here was if I convinced him I didn't have the ace. So I bet pot again
ieatyourmoney calls $72
Ojman folds
*** TURN *** [7h Ac Ad] [9c]
GreenMagnet has 15 seconds left to act
GreenMagnet bets $122 Hoping my ploy worked and faking a weak last hope stab
ieatyourmoney calls $122
*** RIVER *** [7h Ac Ad 9c] [3d]
GreenMagnet bets $149.80, and is all in Pot is big enough at this point, and I figured he had AQ after previous action. I basically sealed his fate with the flop deception, and he was kind enough, and me lucky enough, for him to call down with AQ
ieatyourmoney calls $149.80
*** SHOW DOWN ***
GreenMagnet shows [Ks As] (three of a kind, Aces)
ieatyourmoney mucks
GreenMagnet wins the pot ($756.60) with three of a kind, Aces
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $759.60 | Rake $3
Board: [7h Ac Ad 9c 3d]
Seat 1: ieatyourmoney (button) mucked [Qs Ah] - three of a kind, Aces
Seat 2: Ojman (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: GreenMagnet (big blind) showed [Ks As] and won ($756.60) with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 4: shawn didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: MatCauthon66 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: pokerplyrdpa didn't bet (folded)

Chalk the biggest winner up to luck! Yay, that makes me feel good...not.

Biggest loser:

FullTiltPoker Game #1119881648: Table Rambla (6 max) - $1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 4:18:29 ET - 2006/10/19
Seat 2: bottomset ($199)
Seat 3: DAWGPEN ($518.65)
Seat 4: GreenMagnet ($362.10)
Seat 5: underrolled ($351.55)
Seat 6: DARE2CALL ($189.70)
DARE2CALL posts the small blind of $1
bottomset posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GreenMagnet [Kc Qs]
DAWGPEN raises to $7
GreenMagnet has 15 seconds left to act
GreenMagnet calls $7 Call. He was a solid player so I wanted to see what I could do with a marginal-decent hand.
underrolled calls $7
DARE2CALL folds
bottomset folds
*** FLOP *** [Kd Qd 4h]
DAWGPEN bets $24
GreenMagnet has 15 seconds left to act
bottomset adds $3
GreenMagnet raises to $48 I'm not sure I like the min raise in retrospect with all the draws, but I also thought I was ahead here and wanted to build the pot.
underrolled folds
DAWGPEN calls $24
*** TURN *** [Kd Qd 4h] [9c]
DAWGPEN checks
GreenMagnet bets $78 2/3-3/4 the pot was probably too small a bet, he doesn't have odds though
DAWGPEN calls $78
*** RIVER *** [Kd Qd 4h 9c] [Th]
DAWGPEN checks
GreenMagnet bets $60 This was my "I surrender" bet, hoping to get called by a marginal hand but who knows. I thought maybe a smaller 2 pair would pay me off...
DAWGPEN raises to $120 Great.
GreenMagnet calls $60 Whatever.
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DAWGPEN shows [Kh Jh] (a straight, King high)
GreenMagnet mucks
DAWGPEN wins the pot ($513) with a straight, King high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $516 | Rake $3
Board: [Kd Qd 4h 9c Th]
Seat 2: bottomset (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: DAWGPEN showed [Kh Jh] and won ($513) with a straight, King high
Seat 4: GreenMagnet mucked [Kc Qs] - two pair, Kings and Queens
Seat 5: underrolled (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: DARE2CALL (small blind) folded before the Flop

Pretty standard win some, lost this one hand.

Talking Poker · #15 10-30-06, 10:42 PM

Your Net vs. BB hands are so different because there is a huge difference between playing .50/$1 and 1/2. I thought about going with "Net" hands (for me, they are the same), but realize this was a better way to go because of the people who play all month at level X but play a few dozen hands at much higher limits. Those hands could easily be your biggest Net winners and losers, but they aren't really the biggest hands. BB is the way to go.

As for this specific HH, I think you are being too hard on yourself. I actually don't think you played it badly at all - not perfectly, sure, but I think you played it well overall.

sjay2k · #16 10-30-06, 10:50 PM

I already posted a few big ones, but here we go...

Winner:

ktha posts small blind [$5].
LAGTARD posts big blind [$10].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to LAGTARD [ 2c 2d ]
gayboy69 folds.
atesfull calls [$10].
jarett21 folds.
homie101 folds.
ktha calls [$5].
LAGTARD checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ks, Jd, 2h ]
ktha checks.
LAGTARD bets [$20].
atesfull raises [$70].
ktha folds.
LAGTARD calls [$50].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4s ]
LAGTARD checks.
atesfull bets [$110].
LAGTARD raises [$300].
atesfull calls [$190].
** Dealing River ** [ 2s ]
LAGTARD bets [$800].
atesfull calls [$676].
** Summary **
LAGTARD shows [ 2c 2d ].
atesfull shows [ Kh Jh ].
LAGTARD shows [ 2c 2d ].
LAGTARD collected [$2118].
LAGTARD collected [$124].

Loser: (horrible, should've folded flop)

dodi114 posts small blind [$10].
miniphat posts big blind [$20].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to LAGTARD [ Jd Js ]
liclic calls [$20].
LAGTARD raises [$80].
dodi114 folds.
miniphat calls [$60].
liclic calls [$60].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4c, 5c, 6s ]
miniphat checks.
liclic checks.
LAGTARD bets [$200].
miniphat raises [$500].
liclic folds.
LAGTARD raises [$1645].
miniphat calls [$548.5].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9s ]
** Dealing River ** [ 2h ]
** Summary **
LAGTARD shows [ Jd Js ].
miniphat shows [ 7s 8s ].
miniphat collected [$2343].
LAGTARD collected [$796.5].

johnp158 · #17 10-30-06, 11:18 PM

My lowly winner (sure does suck to have to use poker winnings for real-life expenses).

FullTiltPoker Game #1114682539: Table Kepler (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:53:15 ET - 2006/10/17
Seat 1: Chappie1 ($100)
Seat 2: 3-2-1BuStO ($100)
Seat 3: johnpmaniac ($173.30)
Seat 4: weasel45 ($125.75)
Seat 5: mlsinokc ($109)
Seat 6: cheft009 ($87.35)
mlsinokc posts the small blind of $0.50
cheft009 posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to johnpmaniac [8c Tc]
johnpmaniac raises to $4
weasel45 folds
mlsinokc calls $3.50
cheft009 calls $3
*** FLOP *** [Td 5h Th]
mlsinokc checks
cheft009 checks
johnpmaniac bets $9
mlsinokc calls $9
cheft009 folds
*** TURN *** [Td 5h Th] [9s]
mlsinokc checks
johnpmaniac bets $25
mlsinokc raises to $96, and is all in
johnpmaniac calls $71
mlsinokc shows [Qh Ah]
johnpmaniac shows [8c Tc]
*** RIVER *** [Td 5h Th 9s] [2s]
mlsinokc shows a pair of Tens
johnpmaniac shows three of a kind, Tens
johnpmaniac wins the pot ($220) with three of a kind, Tens
mlsinokc is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $222 | Rake $2
Board: [Td 5h Th 9s 2s]
Seat 1: Chappie1 is sitting out
Seat 2: 3-2-1BuStO is sitting out
Seat 3: johnpmaniac showed [8c Tc] and won ($220) with three of a kind, Tens
Seat 4: weasel45 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: mlsinokc (small blind) showed [Qh Ah] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 6: cheft009 (big blind) folded on the Flop

Nothing too interesting to talk about here, I think.

johnp158 · #18 10-30-06, 11:19 PM

And the loser...

FullTiltPoker Game #1161846853: Table Easement (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:19:07 ET - 2006/10/28
Seat 1: blue10cj ($20)
Seat 2: homydntplay ($111.25)
Seat 3: pickless ($108.10)
Seat 4: rissarat ($99)
Seat 5: johnpmaniac ($166.75)
Seat 6: CHINCHDOG ($127.80)
rissarat posts the small blind of $0.50
johnpmaniac posts the big blind of $1
blue10cj posts a dead small blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to johnpmaniac [4h 6c]
CHINCHDOG folds
blue10cj folds
homydntplay calls $1
rissarat folds
johnpmaniac checks
*** FLOP *** [5s Ad 7c]
johnpmaniac checks
homydntplay bets $2
johnpmaniac calls $2
*** TURN *** [5s Ad 7c] [8d]
johnpmaniac checks
homydntplay bets $12
johnpmaniac has 15 seconds left to act
johnpmaniac raises to $36
homydntplay raises to $60
johnpmaniac raises to $163.75, and is all in
kristenIl (Observer): usa players welcome at:
homydntplay calls $48.25, and is all in
johnpmaniac shows [4h 6c]
homydntplay shows [6s 9c]
Uncalled bet of $55.50 returned to johnpmaniac
*** RIVER *** [5s Ad 7c 8d] [2h]
johnpmaniac shows a straight, Eight high
homydntplay shows a straight, Nine high
CHINCHDOG: cold deck
homydntplay wins the pot ($220.50) with a straight, Nine high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $223.50 | Rake $3
Board: [5s Ad 7c 8d 2h]
Seat 1: blue10cj folded before the Flop
Seat 2: homydntplay (button) showed [6s 9c] and won ($220.50) with a straight, Nine high
Seat 3: pickless is sitting out
Seat 4: rissarat (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: johnpmaniac (big blind) showed [4h 6c] and lost with a straight, Eight high
Seat 6: CHINCHDOG didn't bet (folded)

Talking Poker · #19 10-30-06, 11:29 PM

This is a spot I really struggle with. With a board THIS draw heavy, I have a hell of a time laying down an overpair. Many (most) opponents will play hands like any pair+straight draw, Ac6c, 77-TT, and so on exactly like this.

I think it's +EV to fold to his flop raise, as you said, but I'm simply not sure yet. This is very opponent dependent, IMO.

Would like to read others opinions of this situation, for sure.

sjay2k · #20 10-30-06, 11:50 PM

firstly, the board is incredibly set-licious; 44, 55 and 66 are all very, very possible.

We only really crush TT and 99, and are ahead against 88.

33, 77, flush draws (plus over) and pair/straight draws (eg 67) will all be coinflip-ish.

i didn't really think of the straight at the time, but it's another possibility. As is the monster draw of 67cc.

my thinking at the time was "oh f--- off, show me siebens" (that's german yo).

villain has $550 after raising us (we have no folding equity), so we basically have to invest another $850 to win roughly $1500 (not sure - $250 from preflop, plus our $200 on the flop, plus villain's $1050).

i really think we'll be up against a set an awful lot of the time here, i think it's a fold.

edit: slowplayed AA/KK/QQ also possible, albeit unlikely

Penguinfan · #21 11-05-06, 05:11 PM

I just got around to doing this,

12,334 hands

I am shocked to find the biggest winner was: JJ

Honestly, no suprise to me the biggest loser AA

I am sure that is because I got stacked twice getting all-in preflop with AA vs KK and getting 2-outed.

eejit101 · #22 11-05-06, 05:13 PM

Just read this thread, i guess ill post mine.

Hands - 18,705

Biggest winner - AA
Biggest loser - AQs

Talking Poker · #23 11-05-06, 06:15 PM

For the last two posters, I'm not sure what you are doing, but this is not what this thread was about. Please reread the first post and follow the (pretty simple) instructions, just like everyone else in the thread did.

Boobie Lover · #24 11-29-06, 01:15 AM

Yeah, I probably should have put more money on the flop, but his guy was bluffing like every hand so I decided to call down even though the board became horrible.

Bodog History for Hand #463512072
Hold'em No Limit ($5.00/$10.00) - 2006-11-28 23:11:44
Table 'Mixto' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: TWH ($1338.00)
Seat 2: PRIMEDEVASTATOR ($1000.00)
Seat 3: hero ($2,572.00)
Seat 4: lowcrabdiet ($1187.01)
Seat 5: zfowlers ($8151.56)
Seat 6: bmm77 ($0.00)
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NEW HAND
zfowlers: posts the small blind $5.00
TWH: posts the big blind $10.00
--- DEALING POCKETS
PRIMEDEVASTATOR: folds
hero: raises $25.00 to $35.00
lowcrabdiet: folds
zfowlers: calls $30.00
TWH: calls $25.00
--- DEALING FLOP [2c,7s,2s]
zfowlers: bets $60.00
TWH: folds
hero: raises $190.00 to $250.00
zfowlers: raises $190.00 to $440.00
hero: calls $190.00
--- DEALING TURN [Ac]
zfowlers: bets $600.00
hero: calls $600.00
--- DEALING RIVER [5s]
zfowlers: goes all in $7,076.56
hero: goes all in $1,497.00
$5579.56 is not called, return back to zfowlers:
zfowlers: shows [Jc 7c], Two Pair, Sevens and Deuces
zfowlers: shows [Jc 7c], Two Pair, Sevens and Deuces
hero: shows [Kc Kd], Two Pair, Kings and Deuces
Hand 463512072:
hero: wins main pot($5,177.00)
with Two Pair, Kings and Deuces
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