The TalkingPoker.com Forum  

Go Back   The TalkingPoker.com Forum > All Things Poker > General Poker Discussion
Register Blogs Arcade HH Converter Calendar

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-10-04, 04:15 AM
BrianSwa's Avatar
BrianSwa BrianSwa is offline
Banned
 

Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 4,757
BrianSwa has between 100 and 249 Rep PointsBrianSwa has between 100 and 249 Rep Points
Default Live play vs. internet play

this thread is to compare which one you like the most, I know most will say they like internet play since I never see any threads out there on live play on here.

My opinion is I like live play 100x better, actully find myself playing freerolls only online to practice for live play. Yea I know what you all are going to say freerolls are terrible and you dont get any real practice but ill have to disagree after the 1st hour the play in freerolls is actully not that bad. If I had $300 dollars given to me tommorrow id rather wait a month and go to a live casino then put it online. I can make alot more money off people at live tables then online, Im actully pretty good at reading people and I have a very, very good memory so I can remember exactly what he pushed in with 3 hours ago. Last time I went to a live casino within one hour I knew exactly what kind of player everyone was at my table but enough about me want to hear what you all think so share with us.
  #2  
Old 12-10-04, 05:09 AM
stussy2k stussy2k is offline
Donkey
 

Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 73
stussy2k has between 10 and 49 Rep Points
Default

i'm more sucessful in live play, generally because i like to be able to see the body language of my opponents. I'm by no means a master of tells, but seeing someone when they actually play, i believe makes it easier to put them on a hand, instead of guessing by their position.
  #3  
Old 12-10-04, 05:11 AM
BrianSwa's Avatar
BrianSwa BrianSwa is offline
Banned
 

Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 4,757
BrianSwa has between 100 and 249 Rep PointsBrianSwa has between 100 and 249 Rep Points
Default lol


get this last live game I played the guy was shakeing so bad I thought he was gonna fall out of chair hehe.
  #4  
Old 12-10-04, 05:13 AM
Gutzz's Avatar
Gutzz Gutzz is offline
Maniac
 

Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 258
Gutzz has between 10 and 49 Rep Points
Default

I played live once for pennys with a few friends for fun (not poker players). It was really difficult for me. I had the hardest time hiding my glee when i got a good hand. The more I tried to not smile, the more I smiled .

Cheers,

Gutzz
  #5  
Old 12-10-04, 05:15 AM
BrianSwa's Avatar
BrianSwa BrianSwa is offline
Banned
 

Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 4,757
BrianSwa has between 100 and 249 Rep PointsBrianSwa has between 100 and 249 Rep Points
Default hey


its alot easier when you dont know the players trust me, I thought i would smile to but 1st time I played in casino I was stone faced.
  #6  
Old 12-10-04, 10:27 AM
Slayre Slayre is offline
Fish
 

Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 24
Slayre has between 10 and 49 Rep Points
Default

I like them both pretty much the same..... I have not been in any live cash games yet.. only free tourneys at local bars...( i just hate having to travel, play for hours, and maybe not win ).

I'm a a more consistant winner at the live tourneys than I am online.. but, I have poker tracker now, so, that will change relatively soon, I'm sure... oh, I've got the book, Theory of Poker as well.

I like having the chips and the cards in my hands.... it suprises me, each and every time, no mattre what mood I may be in, sad, happy, drunk, angry, bewildered, tilted, confused, whatever... but, the anticipation of peeling up the corner of my first card, then my second... and it doesn't even mattre what they are.. it is just so exciting to me... always has been, and still is...just sumtin about wondering if 'are these "my" two cards.. are these the cards I've been waiting on... heh.. sounds silly.. oh well, so be it then.
__________________
Slayre
Slayre's Poker Quest
  #7  
Old 12-10-04, 01:46 PM
jillaj's Avatar
jillaj jillaj is offline
grrrrr
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: KY
Posts: 1,333
jillaj has between 750 and 999 Rep Pointsjillaj has between 750 and 999 Rep Pointsjillaj has between 750 and 999 Rep Pointsjillaj has between 750 and 999 Rep Pointsjillaj has between 750 and 999 Rep Pointsjillaj has between 750 and 999 Rep Pointsjillaj has between 750 and 999 Rep Points
Default

When I play in a live tourney I like that more than playing online. Only exception is when the play is so slow. However I like to play online a lot more since it is so easy and there is also a game if that makes sense. I also don't like to drive that far for a game since if i don't win it will be a looooong drive home.
  #8  
Old 12-10-04, 01:58 PM
2Tone's Avatar
2Tone 2Tone is offline
WA's most wanted
 

Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Seattle
Posts: 1,800
2Tone has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points2Tone has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points2Tone has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points2Tone has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points2Tone has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points2Tone has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points2Tone has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points2Tone has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points2Tone has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points2Tone has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points2Tone has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points
Default Profit vs. fun

My profit rate is higher online. This should always be the case, as you do not have to tip dealers/cocktail waitresses. And the quality of play at the 3/6 game at my local card room is far, far better than the 2/4 game on Party.

But for all of the advantages of online play – the convenience, the fact that my living room is non-smoking, etc. – I still don’t count it as REAL poker. Unless I’m holding cards and have to meet my opponents eye, it is at a best a facsimile of the real game, kind of like arena football.
  #9  
Old 12-10-04, 02:16 PM
WSOPcoop WSOPcoop is offline
Fish
 

Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Springdale, AR
Posts: 1
WSOPcoop has less than 10 Rep Points
Default I like both

I win more online, but I think it's just because the guys I play a regular game with are all solid players.
  #10  
Old 12-10-04, 02:24 PM
BrianSwa's Avatar
BrianSwa BrianSwa is offline
Banned
 

Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 4,757
BrianSwa has between 100 and 249 Rep PointsBrianSwa has between 100 and 249 Rep Points
Default hmmm


well my profit is more in live play dont think you can say it should be higher online thats a opinion not a fact.
  #11  
Old 12-10-04, 02:43 PM
Aequitas58's Avatar
Aequitas58 Aequitas58 is offline
Fmr. Resident Asshole
 

Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: South Jersey
Posts: 3,783
Aequitas58 has between 1000 and 1499 Rep PointsAequitas58 has between 1000 and 1499 Rep PointsAequitas58 has between 1000 and 1499 Rep PointsAequitas58 has between 1000 and 1499 Rep PointsAequitas58 has between 1000 and 1499 Rep PointsAequitas58 has between 1000 and 1499 Rep PointsAequitas58 has between 1000 and 1499 Rep PointsAequitas58 has between 1000 and 1499 Rep Points
Default

Actually, it is a fact. If you are a winning player at a particular limit, online poker allows you to not only play more hands at a single table, but you have the opportunity to multi-table as well. Even if you don't multi-table, you are still saving money from tips along with the decreased rake. Using the "more-hands" logic, you would ultimately win more BB/hour.
__________________
  #12  
Old 12-10-04, 02:49 PM
Slayre Slayre is offline
Fish
 

Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 24
Slayre has between 10 and 49 Rep Points
Default

that is pretty much true, except for those of us that keep our refreshment cash separate from our gaming cash... whereas insotherefor, it would have no bearing on our hourly rate.
__________________
Slayre
Slayre's Poker Quest
  #13  
Old 12-10-04, 03:51 PM
BrianSwa's Avatar
BrianSwa BrianSwa is offline
Banned
 

Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 4,757
BrianSwa has between 100 and 249 Rep PointsBrianSwa has between 100 and 249 Rep Points
Default still disagreeing


well im up in live poker and down online so guess your fact dosent hold true for everyone. And actully ive played more hands in live poker then I have online since I dont put money online.
  #14  
Old 12-10-04, 04:04 PM
Penguinfan's Avatar
Penguinfan Penguinfan is offline
<<<<<
 

Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,432
Penguinfan has between 500 and 749 Rep PointsPenguinfan has between 500 and 749 Rep PointsPenguinfan has between 500 and 749 Rep PointsPenguinfan has between 500 and 749 Rep PointsPenguinfan has between 500 and 749 Rep PointsPenguinfan has between 500 and 749 Rep Points
Default

I think the heart of poker is playing it live, but we just have too much access to it on the internet. Definatly two different games.
__________________
If aces didn't get cracked they would be writing books about me!
  #15  
Old 12-10-04, 04:22 PM
Kidd7138's Avatar
Kidd7138 Kidd7138 is offline
Maniac
 

Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: MA
Posts: 220
Kidd7138 has between 10 and 49 Rep Points
Default

Personally I enjoy playing live over online. The only thing that is better in online poker is the convenience. I do seem to focus more playing online than I do in live games, probably because I know all the people I play against live while online you sit down at a table largely clueless as to how the others at the table play.
__________________
"When I cut my finger, that's a tragedy. When you fall down a manhole and die, that's a comedy." -- Mel Brooks
  #16  
Old 12-10-04, 09:14 PM
Gutzz's Avatar
Gutzz Gutzz is offline
Maniac
 

Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 258
Gutzz has between 10 and 49 Rep Points
Default

You're probably right, I'd take it more seriously vs strangers.

Is the average 3/6 B&M player betterthan the average 3/6 online player? I always thought 3/6 online would be like 5/10 irl or 10/20?

The rake irl must be rougher to beat than the online yes? so winrate is reduced?

Cheers,

Gutzz
  #17  
Old 12-10-04, 10:24 PM
BrianSwa's Avatar
BrianSwa BrianSwa is offline
Banned
 

Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 4,757
BrianSwa has between 100 and 249 Rep PointsBrianSwa has between 100 and 249 Rep Points
Default 3/6 in real life


its easy as hell just play tight and you should make profit every time you sit down. 5/10 is a little different they play much more solid and lets not get into 2/4 in b&m because they all suck.
  #18  
Old 12-11-04, 01:24 AM
2Tone's Avatar
2Tone 2Tone is offline
WA's most wanted
 

Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Seattle
Posts: 1,800
2Tone has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points2Tone has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points2Tone has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points2Tone has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points2Tone has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points2Tone has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points2Tone has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points2Tone has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points2Tone has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points2Tone has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points2Tone has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points
Default Live is harder

I don't have enough experience playing at the higher limits in B&M to know about them, but I can say with some confidence that your average 3/6 B&M players is better than your average 3/6 online player. It is just easier to make stupid calls online. The rake is a good question, and probably differs by local cardroom and online casinos.
  #19  
Old 12-11-04, 01:26 AM
BrianSwa's Avatar
BrianSwa BrianSwa is offline
Banned
 

Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 4,757
BrianSwa has between 100 and 249 Rep PointsBrianSwa has between 100 and 249 Rep Points
Default rake


most card rooms have a cap on the rake depending on where you go and you can ask for relief from the rake if your shorthanded like 4 people or less. As for the play of 3/6 in B&M I dont find it hard at all of and the players chase like hell no matter what seems like there there because they want to lose there money, and im happy to help them out!!!
  #20  
Old 12-11-04, 01:30 AM
Poker Bookshelf Poker Bookshelf is offline
Fish
 

Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: On the button
Posts: 30
Poker Bookshelf has between 10 and 49 Rep Points
Default

In SoCal, the live games can be a lot looser than on-line at the lower limits. I've recently been at 6-12 with half the table seeing the flop, many with trash hands. My theory is that players who hang out on the Internet tend to read and learn, and over time the online games will get tougher. A lot of the cardroom players don't like to read, so they are plateaued and may fall prey to newer players who educate themselves.

If you are going to play B&M profitably, be sure to study the collection structure since it may change the EV of certain plays, such as blind-stealing.
__________________
Poker Bookshelf - Free poker books
  #21  
Old 12-11-04, 01:33 AM
BrianSwa's Avatar
BrianSwa BrianSwa is offline
Banned
 

Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 4,757
BrianSwa has between 100 and 249 Rep PointsBrianSwa has between 100 and 249 Rep Points
Default Hey


I dont play no limit that much so blind-stealing is out of the question in limit but I totally agree with you on everything you said. Only play no-limit in tornaments which I like to join maybe once a week or so.
  #22  
Old 12-11-04, 03:25 AM
hackers238's Avatar
hackers238 hackers238 is offline
Rock
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 477
hackers238 has between 250 and 499 Rep Pointshackers238 has between 250 and 499 Rep Pointshackers238 has between 250 and 499 Rep Points
Default

Yeah, so do I. Sometimes when I'm on the internet i practice shuffling stacks of chips or cards. Anyone who heard my exasperated comment about shuffling chips before, I finally got it! I can shuffle two stacks of 10 about 80% of the time!
__________________
Poker Blog - www.hackers238poker.blogspot.com

Note to Self - Play ABC Poker.
  #23  
Old 12-11-04, 03:51 AM
ChipFish's Avatar
ChipFish ChipFish is offline
Proud TeamSWA Member
 

Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,445
ChipFish has between 250 and 499 Rep PointsChipFish has between 250 and 499 Rep PointsChipFish has between 250 and 499 Rep PointsChipFish has between 250 and 499 Rep Points
Default

Actually it still does have a bearing on your hourly rate.
As does the cost of the gas to get you to the casino.
And anything else that costs you more than a penny from the time you step out the door until the time you return.

Nice try though... Have to love Creative accounting.
__________________
3rd Grade Reading Level!
  #24  
Old 12-11-04, 03:51 AM
BrianSwa's Avatar
BrianSwa BrianSwa is offline
Banned
 

Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 4,757
BrianSwa has between 100 and 249 Rep PointsBrianSwa has between 100 and 249 Rep Points
Default congrats


good job now you can go to the table and intimidate all the people that cant do it.
  #25  
Old 12-11-04, 03:58 AM
ChipFish's Avatar
ChipFish ChipFish is offline
Proud TeamSWA Member
 

Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,445
ChipFish has between 250 and 499 Rep PointsChipFish has between 250 and 499 Rep PointsChipFish has between 250 and 499 Rep PointsChipFish has between 250 and 499 Rep Points
Default

I still can't do it very well....
Oh well, sometimes it pays off looking like a bumbling fool.
"Oops, sorry! I didn't mean to splash my chips all over the place.... ummm I guess I raise then..... "
__________________
3rd Grade Reading Level!
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:29 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
©2004-2008 TalkingPoker.com