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Old 04-30-06, 09:45 AM
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Default how to lose 25BB in one orbit of 6-max limit

How to lose 25BB in one orbit of 6-max limit.

***** Hand History for Game 4134956042 *****
1/2 Texas Hold'em Game Table (Limit) - Sat Apr 29 21:24:18 EDT 2006
Table Seaquester (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: darjerome ( $113.54)
Seat 2: shamrock1982 ( $73.93)
Seat 3: stretchiw ( $57.50)
Seat 4: Natcross ( $98.53)
Seat 5: melioris ( $49.75)
Seat 6: trakkerTone ( $116)
melioris posts small blind (0.50)
trakkerTone posts big blind (1)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to melioris [ Qc, Qs ]
darjerome folds.
shamrock1982 folds.
stretchiw calls (1)
Natcross raises (2) to 2
melioris raises (2.50) to 3
trakkerTone folds.
stretchiw calls (2)
Natcross calls (1)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Jh, 2h, 7d ]
melioris bets (1)
stretchiw calls (1)
Natcross calls (1)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 7h ]
melioris bets (2)
stretchiw folds.
Natcross calls (2)
** Dealing River ** : [ 3h ]
melioris bets (2)
Natcross raises (4) to 4
melioris calls (2)
** Summary **
Main Pot: $24 | Rake: $1
Board: [ Jh 2h 7d 7h 3h ]

darjerome balance $113.54, didn't bet (folded)
shamrock1982 balance $73.93, didn't bet (folded)
stretchiw balance $53.50, lost $4 (folded)
Natcross balance $112.53, bet $10, collected $24, net +$14 [ Ah Tc ] [ a flush, ace high -- Ah,Jh,7h,3h,2h ]
melioris balance $39.75, lost $10 [ Qc Qs ] [ two pairs, queens and sevens -- Qc,Qs,Jh,7d,7h ]

***** Hand History for Game 4134963309 *****
1/2 Texas Hold'em Game Table (Limit) - Sat Apr 29 21:25:03 EDT 2006
Table Seaquester (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: darjerome ( $113.54)
Seat 2: shamrock1982 ( $73.93)
Seat 3: stretchiw ( $53.50)
Seat 4: Natcross ( $112.53)
Seat 5: melioris ( $39.75)
Seat 6: trakkerTone ( $115)
trakkerTone posts small blind (0.50)
darjerome posts big blind (1)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to melioris [ Kd, Jc ]
shamrock1982 calls (1)
stretchiw calls (1)
Natcross folds.
melioris raises (2) to 2
trakkerTone folds.
darjerome folds.
shamrock1982 calls (1)
stretchiw calls (1)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ks, Js, Ts ]
shamrock1982 checks.
stretchiw checks.
melioris bets (1)
shamrock1982 calls (1)
stretchiw calls (1)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Qc ]
shamrock1982 checks.
stretchiw checks.
melioris bets (2)
shamrock1982 calls (2)
stretchiw calls (2)
** Dealing River ** : [ 5c ]
shamrock1982 checks.
stretchiw checks.
melioris checks.
** Summary **
Main Pot: $15.75 | Rake: $0.75
Board: [ Ks Js Ts Qc 5c ]

darjerome balance $112.54, lost $1 (folded)
shamrock1982 balance $68.93, lost $5 [ Qh 7h ] [ a pair of queens -- Ks,Qh,Qc,Js,Ts ]
stretchiw balance $64.25, bet $5, collected $15.75, net +$10.75 [ As Td ] [ a straight, ten to ace -- As,Ks,Qc,Js,Td ]
Natcross balance $112.53, didn't bet (folded)
melioris balance $34.75, lost $5 [ Kd Jc ] [ two pairs, kings and jacks -- Kd,Ks,Qc,Jc,Js ]

***** Hand History for Game 4134979756 *****
1/2 Texas Hold'em Game Table (Limit) - Sat Apr 29 21:26:43 EDT 2006
Table Seaquester (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: darjerome ( $112.04)
Seat 2: shamrock1982 ( $61.93)
Seat 3: stretchiw ( $64.25)
Seat 4: Natcross ( $123.28)
Seat 5: melioris ( $30.75)
Seat 6: trakkerTone ( $114.50)
shamrock1982 posts small blind (0.50)
stretchiw posts big blind (1)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to melioris [ Kd, Kh ]
Natcross folds.
melioris raises (2) to 2
trakkerTone folds.
darjerome folds.
shamrock1982 calls (1.50)
stretchiw calls (1)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 2d, 9d, 8c ]
shamrock1982 checks.
stretchiw bets (1)
melioris calls (1)
shamrock1982 calls (1)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 4d ]
shamrock1982 checks.
stretchiw checks.
melioris bets (2)
shamrock1982 calls (2)
stretchiw calls (2)
** Dealing River ** : [ 6h ]
shamrock1982 checks.
stretchiw bets (2)
melioris raises (4) to 4
shamrock1982 raises (6) to 6
stretchiw folds.
melioris raises (4) to 8
shamrock1982 calls (2)
** Summary **
Main Pot: $32 | Rake: $1
Board: [ 2d 9d 8c 4d 6h ]

darjerome balance $112.04, didn't bet (folded)
shamrock1982 balance $80.93, bet $13, collected $32, net +$19 [ Td 3d ] [ a flush, ten high -- Td,9d,4d,3d,2d ]
stretchiw balance $57.25, lost $7 (folded)
Natcross balance $123.28, didn't bet (folded)
melioris balance $17.75, lost $13 [ Kd Kh ] [ a pair of kings -- Kd,Kh,9d,8c,6h ]
trakkerTone balance $114.50, didn't bet (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 4134991019 *****
1/2 Texas Hold'em Game Table (Limit) - Sat Apr 29 21:27:52 EDT 2006
Table Seaquester (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: darjerome ( $112.04)
Seat 2: shamrock1982 ( $80.93)
Seat 3: stretchiw ( $57.25)
Seat 4: Natcross ( $123.28)
Seat 5: melioris ( $17.75)
Seat 6: trakkerTone ( $114.50)
stretchiw posts small blind (0.50)
Natcross posts big blind (1)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to melioris [ Ts, Ad ]
melioris raises (2) to 2
trakkerTone folds.
darjerome folds.
shamrock1982 calls (2)
stretchiw calls (1.50)
Natcross calls (1)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ As, 4c, 2h ]
stretchiw checks.
Natcross checks.
melioris bets (1)
shamrock1982 calls (1)
stretchiw calls (1)
Natcross folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 3c ]
stretchiw checks.
melioris bets (2)
shamrock1982 folds.
stretchiw calls (2)
** Dealing River ** : [ 6c ]
stretchiw bets (2)
melioris calls (2)
** Summary **
Main Pot: $18.25 | Rake: $0.75
Board: [ As 4c 2h 3c 6c ]

darjerome balance $112.04, didn't bet (folded)
shamrock1982 balance $77.93, lost $3 (folded)
stretchiw balance $68.50, bet $7, collected $18.25, net +$11.25 [ 6s 6d ] [ three of a kind, sixes -- As,6s,6d,6c,4c ]
Natcross balance $121.28, lost $2 (folded)
melioris balance $10.75, lost $7 [ Ts Ad ] [ a pair of aces -- Ad,As,Ts,6c,4c ]

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Old 04-30-06, 02:15 PM
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Hand #1: Clear check/call on the river. 1 BB saved.
Hand #3: Definitely don't cap the river (maybe don't even raise). 1 BB saved (maybe 3).

If you hadn't made those two errors, you would have only lost 23 BBs (maybe even only 21), and not 25!!!

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Old 04-30-06, 02:54 PM
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I think you lost several additional bets by continuing to fire and raise when a flush draw was present (even a 4 card flush in one example) In another you raised with just a pair on the river and the flush out, then capped when reraised.
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Old 04-30-06, 03:20 PM
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Old 04-30-06, 03:37 PM
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edit-maybe it wasn't T3, as that is what he had in this hand, but it was something terrible, no face card playing the board hand.
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Old 05-01-06, 01:32 AM
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The problem with that logic is it assumed bad players never have a hand and are always bluffing... and that's just not the case.
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Old 05-01-06, 09:17 AM
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yeah, and isn't it remarkable that they always have the hand against you? And yes, I see that it wasn't a good play on my part.
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