freeroll badbeat

[the_province]

i was playing a freeroll
136 players 10 places paid $500 prize pool, 204k chips total
i came in 22nd

blinds 200/400
i had queen, 10 (hearts) called for 800 (now heads up)
flop came jack (hearts), 9 (hearts) , 8 (spades)
the other guy went in for 4k so i went all in
they called (19,550 pot)
i now see they have pocket aces (no hearts)
and i think to myself this pot is mine
turn is ace (hearts) now my straight is a flush
got their trips beat :-)
then comes the river
A JACK
i cant belive it they made a full house

then this is the bit that gets me
they have the nerve to say "poker justice" as if they deserved to win
i had a straight when i went all in and they think they deserve to win

decided to work out the odds
odds i was beat 1 in 108.1
odds of split 1 in 122.7
odds of win 98.2 %

I went back to look at the tourny later to see that the player that beat me and had 10% of all the chips in the game came in 19th

what i have to say to them is
HA, now that's what you call "POKER JUSTICE" :P

a few hands later i decide to go all in with pocket 6's
on the button and take the blinds still at 200/400
but just my luck someone had decided they would just call the blind with pocket aces (that is untill i went all in)
to make thing worse they hit trips on the flop so i had no chance
nice 13k pot for them and i'm out of yet another tourny

the 13k guy came in 12th

[Hawt]

From what I can tell the blinds were 200/400 and you called 800 which means you called the blind and a raise with Q10suited right? It means you weren't in a blind which is the only position on the table I could even see Q10s as an acceptable hand to call a raise with. If you weren't in this hand in the first place none of this would of happened. (Some other people on this forum may disagree with my thoughts on Q10s)

And with 66 if he flopped trips you could still get quad 6's to beat him style.

At least it was only a freeroll and you didn't have any of your own money invested.

[the_province]

800 is not that much when you have 16k+ and are on the botton with everyone else folded, both the blinds folded after my call an i was heads up

[Hawt]

Of course my insight was based on the information you provided. If you had provided a complete hand history with chip counts, position, and such it would be a lot easier to pick apart.

[Hawt]

I don't get it, after your call on the flop, there would be $2200 in the pot ($600 from the blinds, $800 from your call, and another $800 from the other guys raise, assuming he wasn't a blind which he couldn't be or you would act before him.) lets also say that there is a i dunno, a $25 ante, which is what pokerstars has as the ante for that level. So that is an extra $225. (with 22 players left lets say you are at a full table)

Then he went all in for 4k more, which you called, so $225+$2200+$4k+$4k(your call)=$10425

You then say when you called the 4k, you went all in and "they called". Who called? You said you were heads up (you and one other guy right? who had already gone all in, who you had position on since you were on the button so he can't "call your call")

$19550-$10425=$9125

Where did this extra $9125 come from? Unless there was really more than two people in the pot.

Even if there was another person, your all in would have to be at least 11k more into a side pot and his call would bump the side pot size up to like 22k???

Maybe my math is fucked but I don't get it.

Edit: Maybe a bunch of people called and then folded to the minimum raise?? that might explain some of it.

[the_province]

i did not say they went all in for 4k i said they put in 4k then i went all in and they called and the pot was 19.5k

i had chips returned as you should have been able to tell, how else could i lose the hand and still have chips left to play with
i told you i had 16k+ the pot would have been 33k if they had more chips than me

sorry to put you down but you need to work on your reading and math skills
all the info was there if you looked.

[nflchad]

You could make your annoying bitches easy to read, and then when someone tells you that you fucked up you could try not jumping down their throat for trying to help you.

Have fun in the freeroll!

[rookette22]

Yeah I agree with nflchad.

Wiser to paste your tourney history on your first post. Gives all the details and then you could explain it.

Me giving advice??? lol

The TP members here have told me more than enough times to paste the Poker history on here, makes for better reading and understanding.

[the_province]

thanks for the advice i know i did not put every bit of info in the first post and that is something i plan to change in future posts

this is not so much of a bad beat but it is one that stung

663 players
$500 prize pool
20 places paid
1326000 chips in play

> Vuduray posted small blind (2,000)
> seedubya posted big blind (4,000)
> Game # 618,397,563 starting.
> Dealing Hole Cards
> kkdbass1 folded
> the_province called for 4,000 (king heart, 10 heart)
> sjbe2 folded
> Bezerk_me called for 4,000
> jsvdva folded
> Vuduray raised for 6,000
> seedubya folded
> the_province called for 4,000
> Bezerk_me called for 4,000
> Dealing the Flop(2 club, K diamond, Q heart)
> Vuduray bet for 20,000
> the_province went all-in for 19,376.68
> Bezerk_me folded
> Extra chips returned to Vuduray, 623.32 (king club, jack diamond)
> Dealing the turn(6 heart)
> Dealing the river(8 diamond)
> Vuduray wins 66,753.36 with One Pair, Kings
> The next hand will start after completion of hands on the other tables.
> the_province has left the tournament in 22nd place