Comparing NL to Limit Levels

[Reel Deal]

We all talk here about the different levels we play at... $1/$2 Limit, $3/$6 Limit, $10/$20 Limit, $25NL, $50NL, etc. I was wondering if anyone has an opinion on which Limit level is comprable to which NL level. In other words is the "talent level" at the $1/$2 Limit tables about the same as the $50 NL tables? Can you even compare the two?

Being only a NL player I'm curious as to what level would be best for me to try on a Limit table if I primarily play the $50NL tables.

[Aequitas58]

That's a tough question, and it's one that I've asked myself before. Are you specifically referring to JUST the talent level of your opponents ... OR ... are you considering average pot sizes, etc?

I guess you're referring to talent level. It's a tough question. A good / winning small stakes NL player is a camper. Basically, he waits for hands that will turn into a monster (pocket pairs, suited connectors), or he'll play his legitimate hands with an open raise or reraise. On the flop, this player should take stabs at the pot (ie: steal) if it's checked to him in LP by two (possibly three) or less players. On the whole, he's looking to double up.

The (6max) limit player, on the other hand, is more of a grinder. It's all about big bets and exploiting mistakes. Personally, I think the jump from $2/4 to $3/6 in the limit world is a bigger one than people give credit. I have seen that players are more aggressive, they are more likely to three bet w/ middle pair (which can be a strong move in some hands), and they are just more reckless.

Therefore, (LOL), I would say that your average $50NL player is equal to a $1/2 and possibly $2/4 L player... but I'd say the average $3/6 L player is more like $100NL (possibly $200NL!?).

As you can see, it's hard to really give an answer. That's just my opinion.

I think 2Tone would have the best perspective on this. From what I recall, he's been primarily a $2/4 (full) limit player, but has recently been clearing bonii playing cheap NL games. ...2Tone?

[2Tone]

Tough to answer because of the all the variables. But here's what I've found.

I play a great deal of 2/4 and 3/6 limit full ring games at Party. I buy in for $100 or $150, and pot size can often hit $25 to $40 – or higher – on a single hand. These games are usually profitable due to weak players, which all into two categories – calling stations who can’t fold top to middle pair (or worse) but won’t raise, and maniacs who raise with nothing. Being full ring limit games, these tables are impractical for clearing a 10x play through bonus, even if you are multi-tabeling.

Meanwhile, I’ve been experimenting with NL six-handed games, which are great for clearing bonuses as nearly every hand is raked, usually for a pretty small amount. I haven’t done so well at $50NL six-handed games, probably because I’m allowing myself to be bullied more than I should. When I drop down to $25NL, I’ve found it very beatable, with the key being table selection, which doesn’t matter as much in limit. If a player has $50 or more at $25 table, I won’t sit in front of him, and might not sit at all. And it’s not unusual to find tables where two separate players have less than $10 in front of them, just asking somebody to take it.

So I guess I’d say the respective skill level of your average Party 25NL is even worse than that of average Party 2/4 limit player. But these games aren’t as profitable for me (at least until I get better at them) because the bad beats are still costly, but I have to bust a lot of $5 players to make what I do in a good 3/6 session.

[oketz7777]

i think that a high limit and a average small nl can be compared some how