this one just in :)

[BDMK]

in the still ongoing 11/11, 1am wpt pca 3rebuy sat on stars:

-get AA, raise approx 5x, get two callers (both total wild fish), boards comes nondescript rainbow Q-small-small, i think of milking this one to the max instead of scaring them off right away so i check, they both check, turn comes another blank, now board is 4 diff suits, all cards spread out, hence no flushes/straights/pairs on board, so i bet small, get called by one of the fish, river comes 4, i bet bare min, fish calls and shows...Q4 for two pair. i muck my aces in delight.

few hands later...

-now crippled, get JJ, raise again approx 5x, get 2 callers, one a small stack, the other the exact same Q4 fish from the previous hand, flop comes K-K-small. i bet pot, small stack folds, the wild fish reraises me all-in. at this point, figuring there are only two Ks out there, and this fish has religiously so far played almost all any A hands and bluffing big or drawing out lucky on later streets with them, thinking hes bluffing me out on an A-hi, call. of course, the fish shows K4...

end of tourney for me.

LOL

(p.s.: this is my 4th straight, and counting, tourney today so far ive lost in this/similar manner, ie by 'bad beats' lol)

all this once again proves my point that sites are not rigged. its just that overly wild/clueless play increases volatility to the max which contributes to suckouts and such...

thats all there is to it.

ok, so heres my first, out of probably many, many more contributions to this subforum.

[Reel Deal]

What I'm learning with Aces... don't slowplay.

[Zybomb]

What many people dont realize is what they have. Sure AA is the best hand preflop...but after the flop its far from the nuts.

Would you slowplay TPTK normally? Thats realistically all that AA becomes (unless you improve of course)

I dont mind playing Aces slow on ONE street. If you limp preflop in EP FINE. But then you must play very aggressive on the flop AND have discipline to fold them if more aggression is shown. If you check the flop expecting someone to bet and then check raise great.... but if they check back, you have to show serious aggression on the turn and again have discipline to lay them down if more aggression is shown. Remember they are still only a pair.

(This isn't saying the Bad Beat post above played them bad, im just commenting on RD's comment of aces being slowplayed)

[BDMK]

zybomb, i totally agree with u. in fact, i very extremely rarely slowplay aces *postflop* for all the good reasons we all know.

however, once in a blue moon, a totally "safe" board comes against one, max two, chaser(s)/calling station(s), where one could extract a little extra milk without scaring them off. (more than two callers, of course, u bet out for value right away, no ifs, ands or buts.)

and thats exactly what would have happened in the above example were it not for one of the 5 remaining cards in the deck that would have killed me, and indeed ended up killing me.

i just got unlucky, to say the least. but hey, the good news is im totally used to getting very/significantly statistically unlucky, which i do on a daily basis.

[olysports]

I hear that lol. I dont usually like to slow play aces that much unless it is short handed.