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Old 04-08-05, 10:53 AM
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Default Recent Run got me thinking

Had a terrible run starting the Poker Room bonus clearing. Got hammered at the limit tables and found myself negative even with the bonus added in and only half way through.

Switched to $25 NL. Cashed today -$24 NOT including the bonus. Same bad players making bad plays but patience was payed off better at the NL tables.

So question: A player starting at the micro limits and moving up as bankroll builds, gets to $1/$2 level. Could someone with experience and knowledge switch to the NL tables and get to the $3/$6 bankroll faster?

OK, "It depends". I think though, for someone who has moved up through the micro limits, understands the game and is willing to learn and make adjustments, NL will build your bankroll faster than the continual grind through limits.

I am of the opinion that limit is where you make your money but could this be a "faster track" to building a bankroll once you have some experience.

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Old 04-08-05, 10:56 AM
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Personally, I think you need to build your bankroll to the level you want through limit. In NL, swings can be very drastic whereas in limit your swings are cushioned.

The only NL I will play is tournament. As this stage in my game, I don't think I want to plop down a $100 on a pot limit O8 game and go all-in and see someone river me.
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Old 04-08-05, 11:04 AM
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Can you get to $3/6 faster if you take the NL "shortcut?" Yes - at least I think so. But... if a limit player wants to get to a certain limit, (ie: $3/6), he's only hurting himself if he gets there by winning the money at NL.
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True, there is an experience factor that you would be given up. As I moved through the 1/2 limits to 3/6 there were subtle changes in the quality of players and the play.
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That is exactly why I haven't budged from 1/2. I find the players just dead-money and I see no reason to move up and play better players when I know profit may be marginally higher at best or worst case I may start losing.
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Are you talking about O8?
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Old 04-08-05, 02:38 PM
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I think you should know Mr. Lawyer .

Yes, most of the players that play O8 are beginners who try their luck at low-limits, as in .25/.50 (I remember grinding these tables), .50/1.00 (these were boring as well), and now I have found the perfect balance at 1/2. Some players are good, most are bad, and the mix is just right to allow some steady growth to my bankroll.

In January I had stated that my goal was to profit $3000 this year, and I am already up around $1600, and it is only early April. My new aim is $5K, and who knows if I start focusing more on MTTs.
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I never knew this, but NL is a LOW VARIANCE GAME! WTF! Sir! What are you saying!?!?! I know it does not make sense to alot of you, but think of it this way. If you play <= 100/NL the "right" way, you rarely ever should chase a draw and you should get paid off big with your monsters. You should also take alot of small pots as the other non-chasers fold, or the chasers miss. If you have huge variance swings in NL then you are probably chasing too much and not laying hands down when the board says your beat. This leads to less variance. So having said this, I will agree with everyone else, yes 50/NL can be a short cut to 3/6 roll, and no you should not do it if you want to be a limit player. In addition if you take a limit approach to NL you will have a nice short cut to .50/1 level bankroll. It is a TOTALLY different game. So stick to limit, or learn how to play NL the right way, do not straddle.
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