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Old 03-24-05, 07:18 AM
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PokerStars Game #1407316255: Tournament #6255933, Hold'em Limit - Level X (800/1600) - 2005/03/24
- 04:02:23 (ET)
Table '6255933 1' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: agn727 (2100 in chips)
Seat 2: TheBudak (14820 in chips)
Seat 3: shorty4 (21270 in chips)
Seat 5: dweemson (24240 in chips)
Seat 6: ChipFish (8069 in chips)
Seat 7: 1BIGkicker (32951 in chips)
Seat 8: Kitty3 (3624 in chips)
Seat 9: AlfGarnett (2263 in chips)
dweemson: posts small blind 400
ChipFish: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChipFish [Ac Ad]
1BIGkicker: folds
Kitty3: calls 800
AlfGarnett: calls 800
agn727: raises 800 to 1600
TheBudak: folds
shorty4: calls 1600
dweemson: folds
ChipFish: raises 800 to 2400
Kitty3: calls 1600
AlfGarnett: calls 1463 and is all-in
agn727: calls 500 and is all-in
shorty4: calls 800
*** FLOP *** [6h 6s 3h]
ChipFish: bets 800
Kitty3: folds
shorty4: calls 800
*** TURN *** [6h 6s 3h] [Kc]
ChipFish: bets 1600
shorty4: calls 1600
*** RIVER *** [6h 6s 3h Kc] [Kh]
ChipFish: bets 1600
shorty4: calls 1600
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ChipFish: shows [Ac Ad] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
shorty4: shows [Qs Kd] (a full house, Kings full of Sixes)
shorty4 collected 8411 from side pot-2
AlfGarnett: mucks hand
shorty4 collected 652 from side pot-1
agn727: mucks hand
shorty4 collected 10900 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 19963 Main pot 10900. Side pot-1 652. Side pot-2 8411. | Rake 0
Board [6h 6s 3h Kc Kh]
Seat 1: agn727 mucked [9h Ah]
Seat 2: TheBudak folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: shorty4 (button) showed [Qs Kd] and won (19963) with a full house, Kings full of Sixes
Seat 5: dweemson (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: ChipFish (big blind) showed [Ac Ad] and lost with two pair, Aces and Kings
Seat 7: 1BIGkicker folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Kitty3 folded on the Flop
Seat 9: AlfGarnett mucked [As 8c]
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Old 03-24-05, 10:32 AM
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Tough beat, but I don't think the eventual winner played the hand all that badly. There's 4400 in the pot when it gets to him, and the original raiser's stack size suggests that KQ is not dominated. Now, in his position, I 3-bet to try to get HU with the short-stack. The way he played it, once the other short-stack came along, it was party time.

Anyhow, with the action the way it was, I can't see him folding to one bet on the flop. Now when the K comes on the turn, he's got to figure he's ahead half the time, so he's tied to the pot. You're aggressive enough that a reasonable player has to think you'd 3-bet that preflop situation down to at least JJ and maybe TT or 99.

That's the 2-edged sword of limit tournies. You've managed to get a worse hand tied to a huge pot. This time he got lucky. Most of the time, you have a huge stack after this hand (bigger, I might add, than you would have had if this were NL).
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True... very true...

BTW... on the river, this was a perfect time for the check and call. I have absolutely no idea why he didn't raise you. I can't imagine he could put you on 66 (the only hand that beats him), so why not charge you 1600 for betting the river? I certainly would have.
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I think he felt sorry for me or something...
Funny thing is if he had A-6 or something like that, I would have had no problem getting wiped in that hand.
Just the way it went down kind of sucked.
I agree with Kurn, he did play it correctly.
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Old 03-24-05, 01:09 PM
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I still don't like his cold call preflop. As it worked out, the other short stack and you were going to play anyway, but the best play is to try to get this pot heads up.
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