The TalkingPoker.com Forum  

Go Back   The TalkingPoker.com Forum > All Things Poker > General Poker Discussion
Register Blogs Arcade HH Converter Calendar

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-29-08, 07:02 PM
stormswa stormswa is offline
<--------- dickhead
 

Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,655
stormswa has between 100 and 249 Rep Pointsstormswa has between 100 and 249 Rep Points
Default getting through a bad run

ok im in the worst run I have even been in, I swear to you guys this is going on 4 days now. I have had more AA and KK and QQ hands cracked that I can imagine. Out of 40+ 180s I have gone out with the dominating hand about 25 of them and the other 15 were coinflips which honestly im fine going out with them. Just today I got AA cracked by 88 and JT cracked by a flush draw when I put him all in on turn when I made top 2.

I really dont know im getting scared of running anything but the absolute nuts. Couple days ago I flopped 2 straights and had one guy runner runner me for full house and other guy pair river so his flopped set beat me. I concider myself pretty in control of my emotions and I didnt let it affect me in the actual game but its really taking a toll on my confidence. Im running a stake that has really been affected by this, I look over my hand histories to see if I could of done anything different but seeing as almost 100% of the time I got it in way ahead I dont think there is.

I know pokerstars isnt out to get me but it just feels like they are sitting there watching me laughing their ass's off. It seems like this week im losing coinflips when I really need to win one or 2. Ive been deep in numerous tourneys, like real deep and losing those coinflips. It seems like im winning them vs microstacks and losing them against people that can put me out of the tourney.

IDK Im just wondering how you all deal with it, I dont think a break is in order because like I said im not playing bad but whenever I get KK, AA or AK or some other real good hand I start thinking "great how am I going to get screwed in this hand". I know this isnt the greatest way to think but after I have had like AA cracked 5 times, KK 3 times and QQ 3 times in last week its starting to feel that way.



stormswa
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by "AJ" View Post
I can honestly confirm that myself and Brian are both dickheads....
  #2  
Old 04-29-08, 08:44 PM
Talking Poker's Avatar
Talking Poker Talking Poker is offline
Adminimus Maximus
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Florida Coast
Posts: 27,480
Talking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep Points
Default

I wish I knew the answer to this question. I'm on one of my worst runs that I've had for a while. It started off annoying, then got bad, then got worse, and when I finally thought it couldn't get worse, it did. I keep thinking, "Maybe today is the day" that it will turn around and I'll be able to beat the idiots who put their money in so badly... but I've been thinking that for like 3+ weeks now. Ugh.

I know some people will play more to try to play through it, but I've tried that in the past and had disasterous results. So now, when I'm running badly, I play less. when I'm running well, I push myself to play a little bit more. Makes sense, right?

Taking a break also helps and so does mixing up what I'm playing. Like, if I'm getting tired of the HU SNGs, I'll switch to cash games for a while, just to play something different, so I can (hopefully) come back fresh in a few days.

I've also notice that cashing out always makes me feel better too, but sometimes that's tough to do when you are running badly. That's why I like to be well overrolled for what I'm playing, so even in the middle of a bad downswing, I can still cash out and not worry about busting my account.
__________________

Got RakeBack?
27% at Full Tilt | 33% at Cake Poker | 30% at Carbon Poker
  #3  
Old 04-29-08, 08:55 PM
stormswa stormswa is offline
<--------- dickhead
 

Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,655
stormswa has between 100 and 249 Rep Pointsstormswa has between 100 and 249 Rep Points
Default


oh crap the thought of this lasting 3 weeks makes me sick to my stomach.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by "AJ" View Post
I can honestly confirm that myself and Brian are both dickheads....
  #4  
Old 04-29-08, 09:15 PM
Kurn's Avatar
Kurn Kurn is offline
cha'DIch of the Poker Gods
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Warwick, RI
Posts: 3,584
Kurn User has between 2000 and 2499 Rep PointsKurn User has between 2000 and 2499 Rep PointsKurn User has between 2000 and 2499 Rep PointsKurn User has between 2000 and 2499 Rep PointsKurn User has between 2000 and 2499 Rep PointsKurn User has between 2000 and 2499 Rep PointsKurn User has between 2000 and 2499 Rep PointsKurn User has between 2000 and 2499 Rep PointsKurn User has between 2000 and 2499 Rep PointsKurn User has between 2000 and 2499 Rep PointsKurn User has between 2000 and 2499 Rep Points
Default

IDK Im just wondering how you all deal with it

I keep repeating my mantra, learned from a quote from former Buffalo QB Jim Kelly.

After a win, where the Bills came back after stinking it up in the 1st half, Kelly was asked how he could come out slinging after throwing 3 picks in the 1st half, Kelly answered:

"I'm an optimist with a short memory."
__________________
"Animals die, friends die, and I shall die. But the one thing that will never die is the reputation I leave behind."

Old Norse adage
  #5  
Old 04-29-08, 09:46 PM
Wes Wes is offline
Forum Addict
 

Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,879
Blog Entries: 23
Wes has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsWes has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsWes has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsWes has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsWes has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsWes has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsWes has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsWes has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsWes has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsWes has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsWes has between 3000 and 3499 Rep Points
Default

You will run worse than you ever thought imaginable in poker. It really is that simple.

But really there is no answer. You can play more to compensate or you can play less and do other happier things with your life. Most of the time when I am running terribly I have an awful mindset that I just think how am I going to get fucked over in this hand. The problem is that I think that every hand. That usually leads to me playing really badly (by my standards at least).

The way I used to solve that was by not playing for a while. Recently though, I've taken up yoga and it sort of clears my mind and makes me think sharper. This has been really true for poker especially after reading the Tommy Angelo book I sort of block out previous results and know that I am bound to win in the long run so there is no reason to worry about this dumb short term result.
  #6  
Old 04-29-08, 09:58 PM
Fildy Fildy is offline
Thread Killer
 

Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,011
Blog Entries: 3
Fildy has between 1500 and 1999 Rep PointsFildy has between 1500 and 1999 Rep PointsFildy has between 1500 and 1999 Rep PointsFildy has between 1500 and 1999 Rep PointsFildy has between 1500 and 1999 Rep PointsFildy has between 1500 and 1999 Rep PointsFildy has between 1500 and 1999 Rep PointsFildy has between 1500 and 1999 Rep PointsFildy has between 1500 and 1999 Rep PointsFildy has between 1500 and 1999 Rep PointsFildy has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points
Default

I think what he means is he vents to me. Says he will never win at poker again. Then has a 12k day the next day.
__________________
Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance.
- Confucius
  #7  
Old 04-29-08, 10:01 PM
hackers238's Avatar
hackers238 hackers238 is offline
Rock
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 477
hackers238 has between 250 and 499 Rep Pointshackers238 has between 250 and 499 Rep Pointshackers238 has between 250 and 499 Rep Points
Default

I took a 1.5 week break after losing $300 in the first week and a half of April. But while I was on break I made sure to either post or review hands every day. I also dabbled in razz!
__________________
Poker Blog - www.hackers238poker.blogspot.com

Note to Self - Play ABC Poker.
  #8  
Old 04-29-08, 10:48 PM
Talking Poker's Avatar
Talking Poker Talking Poker is offline
Adminimus Maximus
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Florida Coast
Posts: 27,480
Talking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep Points
Default

This is a good thread. It's reassuring to know that everyone runs horribly from time to time and that even huge ballers like Was have said, "I will never win at poker again."
__________________

Got RakeBack?
27% at Full Tilt | 33% at Cake Poker | 30% at Carbon Poker
  #9  
Old 04-29-08, 10:54 PM
PShabi PShabi is offline
MC Adam Yauch
 

Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 6,947
PShabi has between 2500 and 2999 Rep PointsPShabi has between 2500 and 2999 Rep PointsPShabi has between 2500 and 2999 Rep PointsPShabi has between 2500 and 2999 Rep PointsPShabi has between 2500 and 2999 Rep PointsPShabi has between 2500 and 2999 Rep PointsPShabi has between 2500 and 2999 Rep PointsPShabi has between 2500 and 2999 Rep PointsPShabi has between 2500 and 2999 Rep PointsPShabi has between 2500 and 2999 Rep PointsPShabi has between 2500 and 2999 Rep Points
Default

Fruitcake.
__________________
Get well soon, MCA!
  #10  
Old 04-29-08, 11:13 PM
thrash1294's Avatar
thrash1294 thrash1294 is offline
Thousand Post Club
 

Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: north georgia
Posts: 1,197
thrash1294 has between 500 and 749 Rep Pointsthrash1294 has between 500 and 749 Rep Pointsthrash1294 has between 500 and 749 Rep Pointsthrash1294 has between 500 and 749 Rep Pointsthrash1294 has between 500 and 749 Rep Pointsthrash1294 has between 500 and 749 Rep Points
Default

for you guys that play for income it must hurt more than for most. I just change it up and donk it up nopaypoker.com for awhile when I get pissed at poker.Or play 1c 2c nl which is still fun for me its where I started first at onlinepoker.But really youshould look around you and think how great you really have it.That you are lucky enough to do this.Which is better than most have it
__________________
I like to get my money in when behind, that way I cant get drawn out
  #11  
Old 04-30-08, 12:05 AM
Reel Deal's Avatar
Reel Deal Reel Deal is offline
I'm on a boat
 

Join Date: May 2005
Location: NE Fla
Posts: 6,651
Blog Entries: 3
Reel Deal has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsReel Deal has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsReel Deal has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsReel Deal has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsReel Deal has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsReel Deal has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsReel Deal has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsReel Deal has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsReel Deal has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsReel Deal has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsReel Deal has between 3000 and 3499 Rep Points
Default

My last bad run lasted 5 weeks. Then I decided it was time to play $5/$10 HU and bam, the roll was right back where it was before the 5 week slide!!
__________________
GO GREEN!!! GO WHITE!!!
  #12  
Old 04-30-08, 12:19 AM
sjay2k sjay2k is offline
Team Discovery Channel
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Ozz
Posts: 2,102
Blog Entries: 1
sjay2k User has between 2000 and 2499 Rep Pointssjay2k User has between 2000 and 2499 Rep Pointssjay2k User has between 2000 and 2499 Rep Pointssjay2k User has between 2000 and 2499 Rep Pointssjay2k User has between 2000 and 2499 Rep Pointssjay2k User has between 2000 and 2499 Rep Pointssjay2k User has between 2000 and 2499 Rep Pointssjay2k User has between 2000 and 2499 Rep Pointssjay2k User has between 2000 and 2499 Rep Pointssjay2k User has between 2000 and 2499 Rep Pointssjay2k User has between 2000 and 2499 Rep Points
Default

the only way to get through a bad run is to keep playing and turn it into a good run
  #13  
Old 04-30-08, 01:54 AM
JDMcNugent7's Avatar
JDMcNugent7 JDMcNugent7 is offline
Cardinals FTW
 

Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 4,481
Blog Entries: 3
JDMcNugent7 has between 1500 and 1999 Rep PointsJDMcNugent7 has between 1500 and 1999 Rep PointsJDMcNugent7 has between 1500 and 1999 Rep PointsJDMcNugent7 has between 1500 and 1999 Rep PointsJDMcNugent7 has between 1500 and 1999 Rep PointsJDMcNugent7 has between 1500 and 1999 Rep PointsJDMcNugent7 has between 1500 and 1999 Rep PointsJDMcNugent7 has between 1500 and 1999 Rep PointsJDMcNugent7 has between 1500 and 1999 Rep PointsJDMcNugent7 has between 1500 and 1999 Rep PointsJDMcNugent7 has between 1500 and 1999 Rep Points
Default

im down alot of $ this year and just paid 88k in taxes its not very fun.
__________________
"Suffer the pain of discipline or suffer the pain of regret"
"Rome wasn't built in a day"
  #14  
Old 04-30-08, 02:07 AM
Talking Poker's Avatar
Talking Poker Talking Poker is offline
Adminimus Maximus
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Florida Coast
Posts: 27,480
Talking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsTalking Poker has between 3000 and 3499 Rep Points
Default

I think I'm going to change my screen names to:
5outmeplz

Seriously, they get it in so bad so many times, and get there over and over and over. It's like, WTF?

My little HU SNG experiment is quickly drawing to a close. I honestly believe I could (and should) dominate these things in the long run, but I'm not sure how much more BS I can take. I mean, we're talking a couple hundred matches of this crap (I'll guess 250), and it's getting worse, not better.

While my brain "knows" that it's just a sick run of bad variance, I can't help but wonder... I mean, at some point, you have to stop blaming bad luck, right?

/End rant.
__________________

Got RakeBack?
27% at Full Tilt | 33% at Cake Poker | 30% at Carbon Poker
  #15  
Old 04-30-08, 07:08 AM
Invigilator's Avatar
Invigilator Invigilator is offline
Professional Amateur
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,853
Blog Entries: 11
Invigilator has between 1000 and 1499 Rep PointsInvigilator has between 1000 and 1499 Rep PointsInvigilator has between 1000 and 1499 Rep PointsInvigilator has between 1000 and 1499 Rep PointsInvigilator has between 1000 and 1499 Rep PointsInvigilator has between 1000 and 1499 Rep PointsInvigilator has between 1000 and 1499 Rep PointsInvigilator has between 1000 and 1499 Rep PointsInvigilator has between 1000 and 1499 Rep PointsInvigilator has between 1000 and 1499 Rep Points
Default

Standing at the back of class FTW!
__________________
poopity, poopity pants.
  #16  
Old 04-30-08, 09:42 AM
lightfungus's Avatar
lightfungus lightfungus is offline
Back in business!
 

Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,259
lightfungus has between 750 and 999 Rep Pointslightfungus has between 750 and 999 Rep Pointslightfungus has between 750 and 999 Rep Pointslightfungus has between 750 and 999 Rep Pointslightfungus has between 750 and 999 Rep Pointslightfungus has between 750 and 999 Rep Pointslightfungus has between 750 and 999 Rep Points
Default

My thoughts exactly.

Holy shit. That makes tax season a lot worse than it was for me...
__________________
I need 'em for my footsies.
  #17  
Old 04-30-08, 10:58 AM
Daomonk Daomonk is offline
Calling Station
 

Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 110
Daomonk has between 50 and 99 Rep Points
Default

I do tai chi (like yoga if u don't know), what does that make me?

I'm on my worst tourney run the past 2 months. And i just keep hope because one score and everything is alright. It makes u hate poker, but it happens.

Being able to switch games is the best thing for me. I can go to different cash games or play SNGs. I haven't run bad in all 3 types at the same time yet. If that happens then i might quit poker
  #18  
Old 04-30-08, 11:02 AM
Windbreaker Windbreaker is offline
Shark
 

Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 988
Windbreaker has between 1000 and 1499 Rep PointsWindbreaker has between 1000 and 1499 Rep PointsWindbreaker has between 1000 and 1499 Rep PointsWindbreaker has between 1000 and 1499 Rep PointsWindbreaker has between 1000 and 1499 Rep PointsWindbreaker has between 1000 and 1499 Rep PointsWindbreaker has between 1000 and 1499 Rep PointsWindbreaker has between 1000 and 1499 Rep PointsWindbreaker has between 1000 and 1499 Rep PointsWindbreaker has between 1000 and 1499 Rep Points
Default

No one in particular, but honestly I don't think a lot of the people here know what a bad run is. Until you've put in a ton of volume and gone through massive downswings, you won't fully realize how bad it can get. I imagine most of other people's version of downswings is rather small.

I have gone through swings where it costs me about 150 buy-ins for SNGs, (Turbo multi-table SNGs have a lot higher variance than most games). Part bad luck and part bad play. I know it could have gotten a lot worse, but I also know the more hours I put in, the more likely I'll get out of it ahead.

I typically just play through it. My advice is, if you're going to sit down and play, make the hours mean something. Don't play just for the sake of playing...put in good hours - concentrate, focus, don't let beats knock you down - as long as you made good decisions.

I think one of the things that put people on tilt the most is when they see their cards get run down. One of the things I do often in tourneys is when all the chips go in, I only look to see if I made a correct decision. After I see my opponent cards, I don't even look at how the board runs out. I basically forget about the hand and have already moved onto one of the other tourneys I would be playing at the time.
  #19  
Old 04-30-08, 03:41 PM
stormswa stormswa is offline
<--------- dickhead
 

Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,655
stormswa has between 100 and 249 Rep Pointsstormswa has between 100 and 249 Rep Points
Default

Thanks everyone,


after hearing all this im looking really forward to playing today, last couple days I have dreaded it but today im looking real forward to it.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by "AJ" View Post
I can honestly confirm that myself and Brian are both dickheads....
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:32 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
©2004-2008 TalkingPoker.com