Poker goals this year

[BrianSwa]

forget about it, forget I ever mentioned anything to any of you. Im still gonna do it but not bother posting here about it, no reason to even continue this thread let it die. Not much reason to post here if just getting sarcasim and gay comments the like 4 or 5 people on here that actully post something worth reading.

[Talking Poker]

I don't know why you take everything so personally.

[GeoffM]

Lou, I noticed you had mentioned there would be no way of making $4,000 playing .50/1.00. I tend to disagree with you there, however possibly in the hold'em environment you are correct. Hell, I've been playing basically .50/1.00 (with the exception of winning $100 this weekend playing 1/2) O8 on PP and UB, and I am up $800+ this month alone, and I really do the majority of my playing on the weekend.

Brian, I find that better players play during weekdays. If you have a chance to sit down and just have two 8 hour sessions on the weekend (or 4 hours, 2 table), I guarantee you will see a large spike in your session profits. If you just want to have fun, then just play hold'em. I'm honestly beyond having fun now, I am in poker for the money first (aren't we all really though?). If you can, and I also suggest this to anyone else on this board, learn how to play O8, and I mean really learn how to play. Take some flops at the cheapo tables or free tables. Learn how to read the board and your hand. There is a reason I make so much off of O8 and it is that people are simply very inexperienced and cannot read the board properly. I still come across people all the time that have 3 to a straight flush in their hand, and don't realize that they can only use 2 of those cards.

It is a new game and people will catch on in time. However, I think that once they catch on, those of us (eddo, omahilo, johnbaker, sorry if I missed someone) who already know what we're doing are still ahead of the curve because we are all beyond just simply reading a board and calculating odds. I'm at the point now where I don't even need to think. Instead now I am focusing on real estate bets and playing a little more aggressively since I am comfortable taking a flop with any hand and playing after it (not that I take every flop). Betting is much more critical in O8 IMO than it is in hold'em. Oh, and stick to limit for now, don't want a bad beat to take your stack.

[Gutzz]

I agree, you should be able to make 4k in one year playing .5/1. It might be tough, but it's very doable for any player who's beating the game. Also if you combine bonus whoring with this (even for just 2 sites)... ez. --- I'm assuming you multitable... Although even just 2 tabling I think you could get 4k if you put in consistent weekly hours.

[EDIT: Ok if you want to get some sort of money goal, start small... win 300 bucks (double your BR?). Then once you've done this reevaluate things and make another goal. It doesn't really seem logical to have a goal of 13.3xyour BR. Long term goals are good, but make the long term goal 1/2 limit or 2/4 (long term, not tomorrow ]

Cheers,

Gutzz

PS. Brian, simmer.

[eddo31]

geoff's point about playing o8 in order to increase your profitablity is very valid.

i find that i can make much more playing o8 than i can playing he. i think that this is a combination of things. first, i think that o8 is a better game for me. secondly, i feel that my competition is just not that good at all. like geoff said, many of your opponents dont know how to read their own hands, so it is doubtful that they will be thinking on a second or third level.

playing tight at the low limits is the key to winning in this game, and once you get a better feel for the game you can get very agressive. sure, you get quartered sometimes, but in the games i sit in you tend to get paid off by second nut hands very often.

[GeoffM]

Eddo, over 50% of the time I get quartered, there is still more than 4 callers so it isn't getting quartered at all, since there is still more than 4 bets going into the pot.

O8B, you also have more chances at even winning a piece of the pot. Therefore when you scoop, the pots are much bigger than your typical hold'em pot would be.

[GeoffM]

Ouch, took a small hit last night. Bad beats galore, rivered for about $300 in total. Ended up down $78 for the night, first losing session in a long time. People drawing seemingly dead though did look quite encouraging, even though they were hitting their 3 outers .

The bad beat jackpot was over 150K last night and even I was contemplating the switch to hold'em. Anyone know if it was hit yet? If not, might be down for some 2/4 hold'em later this evening.

[Aequitas58]

I don't think it's even worth it at $150k. I don't try for the jackpot unless it's over $300k - preferably closer to $400k.

I have no problems winning the jackpot at $150k, but I make more money at NL as opposed to L, so I try to stay off the LHE tables as much as possible.

[PShabi]

Looks like the jackpot was hit.

[omahilo]

yeah Geoff, no one really gets crazy about the jackpot till it reaches 400-500K

[2Tone]

For Lou, this makes sense. No use playing a less profitable game. But for us 2/4 grinders, the jackpot size shouldn't really make a difference. Remember -- you should be playing the BB tables not to win the jackpot, but because the play is softer, and the difference is more than the extra 50 cents a hand. So unless you find the play gets worse at 300k than it is at 50k (which I haven't -- in fact I find that the huge jackpots attract more players who know what they are doing as well as more fish), the BB tables are still the place to be.

[GeoffM]

I agree. Add to that the fact that even if you're playing tight and folding crap, people are still drawing with hands that may hit the jackpot, and then you could also catch that way. As soon as I build my $100 into $500 I may throw my hat back into the hold'em ring and play some BB tables.