rigged r better players

[thrash1294]

Ok its tin foil hat time
Are some sites rigged.. or are there just better players there?
I see more bad beats in ring games at fulltilt than anywhere else.
So is it bots? or better players? or rigged unregulated sites? that make the most sense ?

maybe a player should just play tournies and sngs cause some one has to win and rake is predetermined at the start.Wait what about rebuy tournies?

JUst rambling here I dont know................

[jimmym]

Dont think the sites are RIGGED It just feels like it sometimes, I think with so many new players online its getting harder to work out there play, It does though get better the further/deeper you get in tournaments.

Cash games still have lots of players risking it all on a fish and again at the lower levels they seem to hit more but I suppose in the end these are the players we all target.

As for site rigging am sure it doesnt happen well I play on pokerstars Ladbrokes and tilt I think there too big too be rigged but you never really know for sure.

[Gordogg]

It's variance, have to learn to get over that. Weak players win a lot cumuatively but individually those weak players go broke all the time.

[Tony Cheval]

1) You're seeing a lot more hands online than live, so you will see more suckouts (and we always remember those more than when we have AA and take the pot down on the flop).

2) When you get more stupid calls in a hand, your actual % chance of winning the hand goes down, though your ROI/EV goes up. Just remember there's no profit in them 'teaming up' to outdraw you (unless you're up against an actual collusion group, which is extremely unlikely).

[Invigilator]

bingo. lose sight of this, and you'll be uber-tilting in no time

[Talking Poker]

*sigh*

Two things:

1. Anyone ever notice that winning players never think online poker is "rigged?"

2. WHY would a poker site risk their entire business - which makes them assloads of money when they run clean games - by rigging games, when they will be raking exactly the same amount of money if they didn't? Along those lines - how much would it cost them to pay off the programmer who did the "rigging" to keep his mouth shut? How many millions of dollars? Or do they just have him whacked after he's done with the coding?

[Wes]

Wow, never would have thought you were 40. I guess wisdom does not pass on into old age.

[Talking Poker]

Who's 40?

[Reel Deal]

If you have PT you'll see that AA, KK, QQ, etc... all hold up as they should percentage-wise over a large enough sample. That, along with what TP mentioned, is pretty good evidence that on-line poker is not rigged.

[Talking Poker]

Losing players don't use PT.... if they did, they would know how much they are losing.

[2Tone]

Tony is right. The more bad beats (and the worse they are) the more bad players. Of course one hand will always have a statistical advantage over another at showdown, but if you are seeing players hit four outers or less on a regular basis, that’s a table you want to be at. It means that there are players willing to get their money in the worst of it.

[thrash1294]

I am not a losing player . This year down a big toal of $75
last yar +4000 the year before +7000.

Its just the old rigged theory again I guess..

I Just hope some day Us based sites can operate .Then with regulation you know it will better.

And I thought We were the land of the free

[ashmc2]

Good players put their money in ahead most of the time so when you lose a hand it is often at the hands of a beat. So it just seems more extreme.

I honestly believe in RNG'ers.