6 Max: VS The Consistant 3 bettor

[Zybomb]

You are faced with a constant (and obv loose) 3 bettor. He'll generally CB every flop he 3 bets, and then shut down on the turn if he missed, although he'll occasionally mix in a double barrel (maybe 1 out of 8 or 9 times).

Against this opponent should you widen up the hands that you will call a 3bet with (to include nearly everything that you originally raised with) with the intention of floating the flop in position and stealing the turn if he checks, since he is very predictable post flop? (or of course hitting a big hand when he has one also / trapping him with the best hand) or should you simply stick to your normal strategy against 3 bets?

[Wes]

Obviously you adjust to him. I'd just 4bet him lighter since it costs less, although I am all for fancy play syndrome like bluff shoving overs if he auto cbets all flops (and doesn't stack off too lightly).

I haven't really worked out on when to float and when not to, especially in 3bet pots. I have tried to work it in, but I think I would have to start betting a lot more turns with marginal hands instead of taking pot control like I usually do since my range will be far too weighted to air/monster which is almost never a good thing. Although, I do think that I overthink these things a lot of times and people don't really know what my tendencies are anyway.

[Talking Poker]

I don't know that I have an answer for you just yet, but I like the idea of this thread a lot, since you are (almost) describing me when you describe villain.

Glad to see you've finally moved to 6 max though.

Oh, one thing I will say is that I'd prefer light 4 betting over calling his 3 bets OOP like you suggested. I don't think that's going to be profitable long term. Against this particular opponent, I almost think light 4 betting AND only calling (especially in position) with your usual 4 betting hands (and then raising his flop CB) might be a good idea.

Whatever you do, you're going to want to mix up how you play him quite a bit.

[melioris]

This is a nice thread.

If I am OOP against this villain and I opened (EP or MP), my tighter opening requirements OOP are way ahead of his 3-betting range, so I 4-bet with pretty much my entire opening range. The weakness of this is if he calls then I am OOP in a bloated pot, but I think it is the best way to handle the situation.

On the flops I miss I lead something like 40%, c/c 30-40%, and mix c/f and c/rai the rest. Of course it depends on what flops and all the usually cirteria.

[Zybomb]

Been away a few days for a wedding, so just getting to this.


I should have described this better -- you have been opening in the CO/Button and villain is in the SB/BB 3 betting, thus you have position in the hand