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05-09-07, 11:26 PM
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ok
to sum it up.
basically the user is saying that 4 players sit in the same room side by side and play a basic strategy post and preflop and basically the same way regardless of board. (Although this is unlikely it is possible and would possibly make break even players.) full tilt did a month long investigation on these guys and found they did nothing wrong. it is very interesting to see how this turns out, but I dont think anything will come of this. they are getting flooded with question like how do you play the same way on flop but they wont answer because they dont want to give away their strategy. I dont have a opinion on this, I actull just dont know? Last edited by stormswa; 05-09-07 at 11:33 PM. |
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05-09-07, 11:47 PM
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That's one big fold, but against him, what else could it be? Maybe also QJ or even JJ knowing him, but that's it. There is no other hand he plays like that.
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05-10-07, 12:12 AM
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Me neither, I just don't know enough about variance etc to know if their postflop numbers could be that close. Sitting on the fence for now.
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05-10-07, 12:50 AM
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I think it's impossible for 3 guys to play in the same room and play "the same strategy" and have the exact same pt numbers as Trebek or whoever it was accuses.
That's gotta be impossible.
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05-10-07, 12:56 AM
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I just read through all 79 (and counting) pages. God, I hate me.
IMO, one dude is running a sweatshot type of operation. No one knows the details but him, but my guess is he's got like 3-4 dudes who sit down and all multitable. They have all been trained on a very specific system to follow, and they all follow it as best they can. He's standing up and circulating through the room to help out when any tricky situations come up. Maybe he's doing this all by himself and borrowed the utility bills of some friends. Maybe he's using a bot to follow that same system for all his preflop decisions, and he then takes over postflop (or after the near 100% flop CB). Maybe they all split porfits or maybe he pays them an hourly rate to sit there and do their thing. Who knows? Ethical, unethical - hell if I know. But what bothers me the most about the whole thing is that after 24 hours and 79 pages of posts in this one thread, there have been ZERO posts made by Full tilt reps, and I have yet to receive a response to my email. Even a simple, "We investigated this and have cleared the players in question" would be something, but they have done nothing. 
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05-10-07, 12:58 AM
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Here are the preflop and positional stats that were posted for the 4 players in question...
Wow. That is one hell of a "system" if it is indeed a "system." |
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05-10-07, 01:25 AM
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The stats are too close to be people playing on a system. Humans make mistakes and by the stats noone deviates from the set system. It just doesn't add up to me. For them to take the same amount of time to make a decision isn't realistic either. The whole thing seems fishy whether he is guilty or not.
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05-10-07, 02:42 PM
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126 pages and counting. One thread.
God I love it here! 
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05-10-07, 03:58 PM
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I gave up yesterday. Ill wait till i go back and theres 1000 replies in one hour and I'll know thats when FT has responded and Ill try and find it.
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05-10-07, 04:19 PM
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05-10-07, 04:24 PM
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Here is a pic of their alleged setup (posted by the main guy).
Honestly, this looks to me like a one man set up with two extra chairs thrown in there for the sake of the photo. I mean, I guess three guys could cram in there, but why in the world would they??? |
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05-11-07, 12:57 PM
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I'm surprised no on posted this yet, but here is Full Tilt's oh-so-very-weak response:
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