Poker With Software - PAHUD / GT+

[Robbie Robb]

lol. Some of these guys are pretty obvious though. This is all for $25NL by the way. If I were playing higher levels, I fully agree with you - 1000 probably isn't even enough. I think that's where the datamining comes in extremely handy - at the higher levels. I think it's fairly pointless to datamine at my level as there are simply FAR too many players. There are some players at $25NL that are hard to get reliable info on without a LOT of hands on them. THOSE are the ones that I pay a ton of attention to and not just rely on the numbers to guide me.

[Talking Poker]

Are you guys insane?

If a guy's VPIP is 85% at 1000 hands, I promise you he's a maniac. Let him play another 1000 hands and maybe he VPIP will swing all the way to 80% or 90%, but what's the difference? At 100 hands, you knew he was well over 60%, and that's all you needed to know. At 25 hands, I'm certain he wasn't under 30%. It was enough for a read, way back then.

Of course the more data you have, the more meaning the numbers have, but don't be afraid to use them much, much sooner - at least as far as identifying extreme players goes.