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Old 07-07-06, 02:54 AM
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Only from EP with what I consider drawing hands or small pairs.

I'm telling you right now (despite today's lovely results), you are most likely a better NL cash player than me. That's not to say that I'm BAD, but it's not my strongest game.... which is one of the reasons I'd like to work on it.

The SB numbers are high (I assume) because my donkey tables were fairly passive for the most part, and I found myself completing a LOT. I almost never fold the SB when there is at least 1 limper in the pot, and give me two or more and I'll complete with just about any two cards.

My long term numbers are lower, albeit not much - VPIP in the high 30s and 60 from the SB.

Also, remember that this is 6 max - in case you missed that.
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Old 07-07-06, 02:58 AM
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I used to have relatively high VP$IP from the SB, but I believe such a high # is a leak for me personally. It often lead to me flopping a very marginal hand and me being out of position for the rest of the hand. This proceeded to what I think were a lot of mistakes by me. Although it is tempting for the small price, I do think that there are a lot of hands that are not profitable even for the reduced price.

BTW, I usually run at a tight 26/16.
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Old 07-07-06, 03:07 AM
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Thanks for the comparison numbers. Are those for 6 max? Overall, I'd say the "good players" I encounter typically play tighter than me, but I'm not convinced that I need to tighten up much just yet.

The thing about NL is, it's hard to compare, because two very different styles can both be profitable. In limit, I can glance at someone's VPIP and PFR and almost instantly tell you if they are a winner or a loser, and know how to play against them too. But with NL, SO MUCH of the game has to do with post flop play, implied odds, etc, you can get away with playing significantly looser preflop if your postflop play is strong. I'd say my postflop play is decent, but I'm no JD.

Speaking of JD, I'd love to see a screen shot of his 2006 $2/$4 6 max numbers. What do you say, kid?
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Old 07-07-06, 03:09 AM
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One other comment about those short stacked guys - A lot of them seem to be playing cash games like they are tourneys. And that fact is, they aren't. Cash games are a completely different animal...

Personally, I'm much more comfortable with tourneys, but I am at least aware of some of the adjustments I need to make, where I'd say at least 50% of these short stacked guys are not.
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how bout 5/10 instead of 2/4. i moved from 1/2 to 3/6 very quickly, basically skipping over 2/4... i never liked that limit much.

5/10 is my new thing tho... so heres some screenshots. remember my #'s could be diff. b/c i play HU and 3 handed a pretty decent amount of the time, but 6 max is most common im sure.
even the non 6 max stats, are usually shorthanded - but not always.


Far left is all time 5/10 NL.

Middle is stats from 6/29 - when i decided i was gonna play 5/10 for a long time - and feel about 3x better at the game now then i used to.

Far right is a graph with hands and $$$ won, in thousands...

gotta click on each one seperately, i dn how to do um all at once.
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I gotta call shanannigans on your PT stats TP. I mean, sure, you may get luck the KoD once, but FOUR times?!?!?!?!?! If you're gonna photoshop up a dummy pic, at least make it believeable!

Good going on what looks to be a turn around. It's gonna be a good period of time for you the next little bit!
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Wow... you are playing a LOT tighter than me.... and oddly, you are playing tighter in the 6 max game than in the full ring game? I'm assuming those tables are all 6 players or less too. We could filter these to only show play between 4 and 6 players or something...

But I still don't think it would be comparing apples to apples. 5/10 is a lot different than 2/4. How do your 3/6 (or even 1/2) numbers look? Are they comparable to these?

Nice run, btw - very impressive.
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