Time to ask for help

[Aequitas58]

IMO, I don't think the level of skill "difference" is as much as you suggest. Especially at the Bad Beat Jackpot $2/4 tables, the play is incredibly bad.

[Talking Poker]

This may be true, but I think a bigger issue is that if you are losing at $.50/$1, it's likely that you will be losing 4 times as much at $2/$4.

As or the BBJ.... all that does is add to the rake. It doesn't really matter how bad your opponents are if you are playing badly yourself.

[Aequitas58]

Absolutely.

Do YOU think that john is right, though? Maybe I'm wrong, but I really don't think the players at $2/4 are that much better than the $.50/1 players.

[Talking Poker]

I completely agree with you (not that I have ever played $.50/$1 - I started at $1/$2).... but I also don't think MB is ready to move up to that level yet, and that's the most important part of this thread.... If you're a losing player, you may as well limit your losings to the smallest limits available to you until you are winning consistently.

[BlibbityBlabbity]

I would say that the play is probably not THAT much better, but you will probably have 1-2 more experienced players at the table and in general have more players that have already moved through two levels of experience to get to the 2/4 level.

I have found that the lowest limit on a site is by far the easiest to beat, as you move up (even from 50/1 --> 1/2) the play tightens "A LITTLE" and you have to be a little more careful.

Mathbabe, if you are losing at 50/1, where you can make a lot of mistakes and still have other peoples more numerous mistakes compensate, then you should use Pokertracker to try to figure it out and FIX whatever is wrong at 50/1 before you move up, IMO.

At 50/1 rake should not even be an issue because you should be winning enough that the worst players at the table will be paying your share as well as their own.

[johnp158]

I realize that the competition at 2/4 is really weak. I guess the point I was trying to make was that it will be a little tougher, and you would never want to move up if you don't know that you're a winning player at a lower limit.

[BrianSwa]

yea I agree play level isnt that good until you reach 5/10 even at 3/6 its bad.

[BrianSwa]

my opinion,

I'm bankrolled for $50 and almost $100 NL but Im sticking to $25 NL for the simple fact that im not ready to put $50 into a pot. Limit on the other hand Iam bankrolled for $1/$2 and have no problem playing there and I also play $2/$4 even though im not completley bankrolled for it im really comfortable there.

Sure bankroll is important and all but I think you being able to play the level comfortably is much more important. Honestly it dosent matter what your end results for that month are! sure you had a bad month oh well. If you arnt comfortable moving up dont move up plain and simple.

[Aequitas58]

I'm under the influence right now, but is the above (bold) correct?

To be correctly bankrolled for $1/2 LHE, you should have a bankroll of $600. (300xbb) To be correctly bankrolled for $100NL, you should have approx $2000. (20x max buyin.) Obv. for $50NL, $1000 is suggested.

[BrianSwa]

I thought it was 10x the buy in for NL? which would be 1,000 which I have. If its 20x then I was incorrect.

[Aequitas58]

You shouldn't sit at any one table w/ more than 5% of your bankroll...

[BrianSwa]

I stand corrected.