Could Party stoop any lower?

[PShabi]

I can see why Party has these rules in place:

They don't want someone like TP to sign up 5-10 high volume players, and then just sit back and get fat off of Party Poker rake from now until the end of time.

Affiliates are supposed to help the site grow. If you aren't brining in new players, then you aren't "doing your job."

Believe me, I want a fat rakeback deal. I want people like TP, who are good, honest affiliates to get compensated for the work they put in and for advertising for the site. But I totally can see Party's point of view too.

Somebody tell me why Party is wrong here. TP, explain why you think this is "short term" bottom line thinking by Party. It definitely affects their long term if longtime affiliates are getting paid nice chunks of change and not helping the site grow.

Also, TP:

What the fuck is "this months' bonanza" that your boy is referring to at the end of your post.

[Talking Poker]

When I signed up, I was told I would get x% (it's 20-25, depending on the amount of play) of my players rake FOR THE LIFE OF THOSE PLAYERS. Maybe they had this 60 day crap buried deep in their terms and conditions, but I doubt it, because they have added all sort of other stuff over the years, so I suspect they added this too. Even if it was buried in there, I think it's shitty. They are still keeping AT LEAST 75% of the revenue generated for the players I have sent them, but that's not enough. No... Instead, their stock dips a bit and their short term knee jerk reaction as to how to increase revenue is to screw the small-time affiliates like me. I sent them quite a few of new players in the past - most of whom have moved on, but there are still some who play there. And now they want to screw me because I'm not sending fresh blood. Well, as has been stated, it's not exactly easy to get new Party Poker players when:
1. Everyone already has a Party account.
2. I'm not allowed to offer any type of rakeback or special bonus to people who sign up (affiliates who say they can are either lying or are risking losing their relationship with Party as soon as they find out).

I understand your points about the pseudo-affiliates who signed up 5 big players but aren't actively promoting Party any more. But they should AT LEAST look at this on a case by case basis. I mean, I have Party listed as #1 on my list of recommended poker sites on the main page of this site:


If that's not trying to promote them, I don't know what is. And I think they are very short signted to not see that. This site is growing and there is potential for me to send them a lot of business down the road. If they shut me down and stop paying me for the players that I have referred, not only will I never play there again, but I will remove their links from this site for good. And that somehow is a good thing for them? I don't think so.

As for the bonanza crap, it's just some silly promo they run most months that I never qualify for anyway. Specifically, it's stuff like this (this was from September - I must have deleted the more recent emails):

Hey, look... they are rewarding their big affiliates (who would be sending that many signups ANYWAY). Big surprise there.

[Talking Poker]

While I'm not allowed to offer any special incentives or rakeback or that sort of thing.... if there is anyone reading this that actually doesn't have a real money Party account (or maybe one for their spouse, for that matter) and would be interested in opening one, I would very much appreciate.

Please PM me before you do so, so I can make sure you get the max deposit bonus available (I can actually create a new code just for you) and express my deepest thanks to you personally.

[Aequitas58]

That sucks.

If you need help, you usually generate a small "boom" in visits when you post on RGP. GL.

[Talking Poker]

This reminds me... any and all of you are encouraged to talk up this site when the opportunity presents itself. I'm not saying to go crazy spamming it all over the place (why would you though?), but the occasional mention on RGP or better yet - AT THE TABLES - is a great way to get new blood here.

Last night, someone at my table mention some other forum, so I brought up this site. 5 or 10 minutes later, one of the railbirds said she had checked it out and really liked it and asked me if I wanted a "referral" because she was signing up. I told her that wasn't necessary, since I run the site, but I appreciated the offer.

The point it, word of mouth is the single best way for us to make this forum grow. So start opening your mouths, people!

[Penguinfan]

Umm, I really want to help out, but I am not sure what you mean by "Personally"

[Talking Poker]

Don't get your hopes up. No happy endings for the Penguin.

[Penguinfan]

AIN'T THAT THE F**KING TRUTH!!!!!

[PShabi]

Good points.

Thanks for shedding some light on the whole party/affi relationship.

I definitely see your beef.

[Spidey44]

Is there anyway to get the blackjack and sidebet icons off the table at party? This really is getting annoying.

[nflchad]

Just go to program files find party poker then go to images and find the sidebet and BJ buttons. I deleted them and everything works fine.

[Talking Poker]

What a great freaking idea. Well done.

[Spidey44]

Thanks Chad!