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Old 11-07-05, 01:40 PM
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Sounds like you've been having a pretty bad run.

No need to pay me for lessons... just post specific hands that you lost and think you might have played wrong, and we'll talk about them. No need to post a gazillion bad beats where you flop top two pair and the idito calls you down with his 44 and hits his two outer on the river though. If you bet at every opportunity (assuming this is limit), there's not much more you can do. And despite the results, you really do want these guys to call you down in that situation. Play enough hands and the math will work itself out.
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Old 11-07-05, 01:54 PM
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TP, you don't get it, I'm not on a bad run, I fucking stink. I make all the wrong moves and my opponents make all the right ones, every time. I need a complete overhaul of how I play the game.

Actually I think thats honestly it, I need a whole new view of how to play poker, especially on-line because whatever I am doing does not work in the long run, short run or any other kind of run you can think of.

If it were as simple as playing good hands and having them hold up the entire internet would be nothing but a rock garden because everyone, by now, would have figured it out.

I honestly have to be missing something. I flat out have no business being at the tables right now, none at all.
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[quote=Penguinfan]If it were as simple as playing good hands and having them hold up the entire internet would be nothing but a rock garden because everyone, by now, would have figured it out.[quote]

Being a rocks not fun, that won't change.

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Have you read Small Stakes Holdem by Slansky?
Try that... It might help...
Not sure if it's in there or not, as I haven't read it yet, although it's on my list, but I love playing A-anything suited from any position when you know it's going to be 4-5+ callers to every flop.
You'll miss a whole bunch, but when you catch they still pay you with their 3-9off.
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^ Yeah, what Chip said... go find a good poker book and read it for a couple days and stay off-line.
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I'll third the advice above. Small Stakes Hold'Em is where you should start. Read it, process it, ask some questions here if you have any (especially if something seems completely wrong to you when you read it), and post some specific hand histories.... not just ones where you lost, but ones that maybe you won but think you misplayed.

Do you use Poker Tracker? If you post your stats, there may be some obvious things we can point out for you (ie, you are WAY too tight, or WAY too passive or whatever).

And please tell me if you are playing limit or NL, because they are completely different games...
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Limit cash games and NL tournaments like everyone else.

I see the same people time after time, including yourself, going deep in these games so there has to be at least as much skill involved as luck, right? It has become clear to me that it is much more than just bad luck, it has to be an overall strategy that keeps me from winning or at least cashing.

Getting your set of A's ruined on the river by a flush is, yes, bad luck and I understand it will happen from time to time and you can't do a damn thing about it.

What I do see is me being in the same spot, time after time in a tournament. That being with an average stack after the first break with the blinds now becoming a concern. Never am I in or near the chip lead or near the bottom of the pile, unless I have busted out because of an extremely bad beat.

I guess I am never near the top becasue I don't gamble with the bingo players early on, maybe that needs to change.

As far as cash games go I know I don't play at the limits where it is actually poker, in all honesty the cards may as well be dealt face up at the lower limits and we all know that.

Like I said, I need a whole new strategy and theory about the game.
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