The New Brian

[BrianSwa]

what mcdonalds you know that pays $19 HR. Its impressive because it shows constant winning not just a big hit. Anyone can go on a run and make 2k in a couple days hell if I did it anyone can. Im more impressed by the 7k in a year and a half then any 2k in a couple days.

[SirFWALGMan]

I am not really impressed by either. Yes, the 7K in 1.5 years shows the dedication and patients you need to grow a roll. That does MEAN something and I do not mean to belittle it. However, it doesnt turn me on at all. Obviously 2K in a week could be luck. If you do it over and over its more likely skill. Of course when I can do a few grand a month consistantly then I can talk smack. lol.

[BrianSwa]

I agree Sir but just like me you have been down this road before and lost it. Why not try to keep it this time and not throw it away? Im not getting this I learned my lesson the 1st time and im not even remotely concidering playing 10/20 or whatever you are concidering playing. I know online its hard to think of the money as really yours but think about it man you might throw away over 1k dollars you know what you could do with that?

Not trying to preach or anything even though it sounds like I'am just dont want to see a post from you in a couple days saying "I hate poker".

[SirFWALGMan]

I am only risking 5 bucks. Ok, 300 bucks of winnings, but -5 in the bankroll. Oh yeah, and read my TP blurb! I HATE POKER! lol.

[ChipFish]

Ummmm..... I'm confused....


Did Brian and Sir switch logins?

[BrianSwa]

300 bucks of winnings is same thing as 300 bucks of bankroll, dont matter if you won it or not its still yours. You can still take that 300 and take the mrs. sir out to a nice dinner. You can still take that 300 and buy lots of porn videos, I know its hard to classify your money from their money but it is. I mean the night I lost 2.5k only $25 was money I invested but damit I lost 2k of money I could of taken out and had fun with. I wish to god I would of thought this way back then and you telling me if you lost all your winnings it wouldnt hurt?

[badblood44]

I am impressed. Sir, you and I go way back - in Internet years anyway - but it seems like what you're saying is that if you can't win big, you don't want to win at all.

I'm more of the keep winning over the longer term, slowly growing the bankroll, and slowly moving up in limits. Hell, if it takes 5 years to regularly beat the $200 NL games, then I'll happily take five years to do it.

It's taken me about 6 months to comfortably beat the $25 NL games, and then the $50 NL games. Now that I'm playing the $100 NL games, I have no desire to move up too quickly, just to book bigger wins.

I'm quite content to take my snail's pace in moving up. Just some thoughts.

[Reel Deal]

Yep, that's exactly the path I'm on too. Just wish I could get the MTT bug out of my system since I've only baby-cashed once in about the last 15 I've played.

[drewjax]

Good points. I agree. I have a similar mindset. I couldnt/cant justify using family money to play. I started with free $10 from prima, $20 from Pacific, and $25 from TP, and grinded out a meager bankroll (~$1000). This summer has been crazy, and I cashed about half out and havent played much. Just starting to gear up for alot of playing and bonus whoring. I will continue to build the bankroll, and cash out a bit here and there (as well as profit from 2 small weekly tournaments). I am dedicated to improving, reading books, expanding my game to more NL ring, PLo8, etc.
I think it all comes back to 'why do you play poker'? For the fun and gamble of it, trying to make a big score here and there, nothing wrong with that. Just to have fun and play live with the boys, great. Me, I want to be one of those who comfortably make 40K-100K a year playing online. It seems there are alot of them. If you put in the hours, bonus whore out the wazzoo, practice good game selction and bankroll management, it doesnt really seem that the risk is even all that great. I plan to be home full time, playing online, and taking care of our new baby GIRL (we just found out today) come springtime. I dont think it is all that lofty of a goal. I think it is modestly simple to do.
What do you all think?
Good discussions boys...keep it up!!

[ChipFish]

Try betting it all on "red".
Then if it hits, let it ride.

I believe this would satisfy the urges for a quick and easy score, and probably give you better odds then what you are proposing to do...

[Aequitas58]

I haven't been involved too much in this thread (nor do I want to be), but I just get the impression Sir is trying too hard to "nonchalantly disregard money." Maybe that doesn't make sense to some of you, but I'm sure there are a select few who know exactly what I'm talking about.

I personally don't think you (directed to Sir) make the kind of money you're alluding to. Of course, I'm just speculating, but we've talked too often on AIM, and that's just my impression. Feel free to scan and post your last W2 (redacting the contact information) to prove me wrong.

I hope you realize your plan is stupid, and it's incredibly detrimental to your progress as a poker player. You are completely results oriented, and when you play outside of your bankroll limits, you're simply creating a recipe for disaster. But you've been there before. Two or three times.

"You play to win the game." The only way you're going to do that is by making correct decisions.

Fuck results.

[SirFWALGMan]

How much have I said I won? I am up 600 over 1.5 years. I said that sucks. I admit it. Are you doubting that? LMAO! If I was gonna lie I would say I make TP money.

[SirFWALGMan]

Here is your chance man, 4 people on 30-60!! SCOUT!

BTW: DO I get anything for fucking long ass post of the month?

[Talking Poker]

You get this:
"Thanks for starting this thread, Sir. It's generated lots of interesting discussion."

Congratulations. Try not to spend all of that quote in one place.

I believe Aeq was questioning the income you make from your day job, not your poker bankroll. He's saying (I believe) that he thinks pissing away $300 is not something that somone in your position (income bracket) should do.

I know you continue insist that $300 = $5 somehow, but I think even a young child who hasn't been taught basic mathematics could recognize that that isn't true if the money was placed in two piles in front of him.

I'll fire up Titan and watch a few hands now.