Cheating PokerSites ?

[Windbreaker]

I don't believe any sites are rigged, however the things on pokerstars get sick sometimes.

I usually play the multitable sit n go's, and all can't count how many times my 10 to 1 favorites get burned. I don't really mind the bad beats as opposed to really poor play.

For instance a guy is all in for barely any chips - this is on the bubble, I"m in the small blind and flat call, the BB raises 4BB on me. I fold, only to have him show K 5 off. They spilt the pot, which I would have won. And I end up busting out on the bubble after the small stacked tripled and doubled up.

And then there's situations where people call 5xBB raises preflop with really ugly hands. Eg. Me 10 10, villian K 6. Flops K 10 3. We end up all in. Turn K. River 3.

The thing that gets me shaking my head the most is when a huge stack decides it's time to double up everyone on the table. They make some of the most insane calls...and you can only hope to pick up a hand in time and finally don't get cold decked for the hand.

Maybe I should start going to the higher buy in tourneys...maybe I will be able to read wth they're doing. =P

[Penguinfan]

For the record Chip, I don't think it's rigged, just that you do see some awful funny things happen.

I agree, for the most part with what TP has to say on the matter. I think the biggest reason you don't have those things go your way is you don't donk off all your chips with bottom pair and a 3 kicker in the first place.

I felt the same way recently as the original poster so I honestly got the entire hand history from a SNG I had just played and finished 2nd and felt like I should have won if it weren't for the bad beats, including the last hand where I had AK against 56 that made a straight. Anyway, I went back through and looked at all the hands I played and I honestly thought I got a TON of tough breaks that game, as it turned out I went to a coin flip as the slight favorite 5 times that game when the chips went in the pot (I was big chip leader most of the way at 5-handed) I lost all 4 of those 5 coin flips and won the only one where I went in as the dog (small stack all-in and I was BB and pot committed).

The way I see it I should have won 3 of those coin flips instead of 1 and should have lost the one I went in behind.

All things considered I remember this game as being FULL of tough beats when in reality it was probably pretty normal, if anything I got the short end of it by a tiny bit, but not nearly as much as I thought.

[ChipFish]

This is partly a brag HH and it does have somewhat to do with this thread.
I would imagine that this poker_24h guy may join the ranks of
"The Online Poker is Rigged Crew" very shortly.
**** Hand History for Game 2427939563 *****
$2/$4 Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, July 26, 16:01:55 EDT 2005
Table Table 32754 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 3: Vito__ ( $94 )
Seat 4: HBX001 ( $113.50 )
Seat 5: poker_24h ( $46.67 )
Seat 6: GroggYd ( $80 )
Seat 7: Silvashines ( $105.28 )
Seat 8: ChipFish ( $54 )
Seat 1: KingKing8 ( $152 )
Seat 2: hard2read222 ( $93 )
Seat 10: imaknife ( $28 )
Seat 9: kluftov ( $42 )
HBX001 posts small blind [$1].
poker_24h posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ChipFish [ Jh Jd ]
GroggYd raises [$4].
Silvashines folds.
ChipFish raises [$6].
kluftov folds.
imaknife folds.
hard2read222 folds.
Vito__ folds.
HBX001 folds.
poker_24h calls [$4].
GroggYd raises [$4].
ChipFish calls [$2].
poker_24h calls [$2].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jc, Qc, Js ]
poker_24h bets [$2].
GroggYd raises [$4].
ChipFish calls [$4].
poker_24h raises [$4].
GroggYd calls [$2].
ChipFish calls [$2].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ts ]
poker_24h bets [$4].
GroggYd calls [$4].
>You have options at Table 24372 Table!.
ChipFish raises [$8].
poker_24h raises [$8].
GroggYd calls [$8].
ChipFish raises [$8].
poker_24h calls [$4].
GroggYd calls [$4].
** Dealing River ** [ 3d ]
poker_24h bets [$4].
GroggYd folds.
ChipFish raises [$8].
poker_24h raises [$8].
ChipFish raises [$8].
poker_24h calls [$4].
ChipFish shows [ Jh, Jd ] four of a kind, jacks.
poker_24h doesn't show [ Qh, Qs ] a full house, Queens full of jacks.
ChipFish wins $120 from the main pot with four of a kind, jacks.

[ChipFish]

And just to add to the "rigged" thread...
I personally think "Live Poker" is rigged.
I witnessed 5 yes, 5 sets of QUADS over a span of 10 hrs at the 5/10 table yesterday.
YIKES!
Guess who started it off?
I hold 6-6 Flop is J-J-4
I being the wonderful idiot that I am decide now is a perfect time to put a move on this asian chick.
so I raise the flop after she bets it.
Turn is a rag she bets I raise she calls.
I guess I had better quit with this stupid move of mine....
River is a six... oh a wonderful six.
She leads out I reraise she reraises. I think oh crap. she has a full house with Jacks over so I call.
She flips over the Jacks.
I pout.