Opinions on a live ruling/situation (EPT Barcelona)

[GTDawg]

I read the last few paragraphs of that article a few times to make sure I understood correctly.

Guy #1 gets called by Guy #2. Guy #1 proceeds to be a little bitch and play that "you show first" game even though, by rule, he must show his cards. Guy #1 shows one card and then mucks because he figures that he lost. Guy #2 sees that Guy #1 mucked his hand and shows his cards (which are worse). Guy #1 freaks and grabs his cards after he mucked them to show both cards and try to win the hand.

The author then rails on Guy #2 for being disingenuous and trying to subvert the rules. Seriously?

If you are called by an opponent, show your hand. Don't sit there and waste time. I have had people do that in games against me and it is, by far, the number one thing I hate most at the poker table. You were called, show your hand. I didn't call you to have you muck and let me win anyway. And, to win, show both cards.

If I called my opponent and he showed one card while he mucked his hand...I damn well would expect to win that hand. The other guy mucked.

[melioris]

qft.

[2Tone]

Roland, who as a professional poker player, made a very foolish mistake. As for any questions of ethics, I don't see how that applies here. In fact, from the write-up De Wolfe specifically told him to show his hand, but instead Roland folded.

What more do you want De Wolfe to do?

[de-coder]

There's a bet and a call with all the action complete - show your hand or muck. This "you show first" crap is silly and a waste of time - the clock is ticking while that's going on, and if I'm at the table (in a tournament more than cash game) I'm pissed at these morons.

Also, if you muck your hand you're done and should be done - no one should allow you to pull your cards out of the muck, even if it seems they're clearly identifiable - mucked is mucked.

[jillaj]

Lets see table his hand or maybe just maybe wait to muck till he sees his opponents cards or his opponent mucks?

[Wes]

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