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Old 12-22-08, 12:17 PM
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I understand there will be glitches, but it just so happens to your #1 spokesperson who mucks and STILL wins a pot??? Something does not seem right.
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Old 12-22-08, 01:13 PM
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Fuck ub/ultimate !!!! You'd have to be crazy to play/support those fuckers !!! Stick to pokerstars and fulltilt!! IMO
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Old 12-22-08, 01:13 PM
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In the current climate with so many eyes on UB/AP and all the different ways to publicise it using forums blogs etc. do you really think hellmuth would put his reputation on the line in such a open and blatant way? We all have seen his whinning and bitching about how he should win tournaments, but a 11 time bracelet holder winning a $5000 pot to rob someone, think about it.

its a software glitch.
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Old 12-22-08, 01:35 PM
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With their public image being beaten and bruised, I think they missed a good PR op here. People are likely to accept the whole glitch sitch, but I want to see an indignant and cocky PH come out, all offended at being shipped the pot.

Something like... "This is ridiculous. Do you know how good I am? I don't need some computer glitch to break these donkeys. These players are so bad anyways, it is like they are trying to give their money away to me. The whole situation is insulting to me. I mean, I am the best Hold'em player in the world, and I am going make sure this gets sorted out so that they can back to losing their money to me straight up."

Yeah, If I was an UB/AP player, that would make me feel more confident in the diligence of the site.
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Invig, that actually did sound just like PH, are you and him the same person?

Has anyone on the forum seen Invig and Hellmuth in the same room at the same time? If not then Invig is infact Hellmuth lol.
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I definitely don't think Hellmuth had anything to do with it, but his attitude after it happened certainly doesn't help the situation.

Seriously though, after everything that's gone on, how do they continue to run? I've never played at UB, and haven't played on AP except a handful of times a few years back. Do they have a decent player base still?
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I dont play on either of them aswell but now they have a combined player pool I think they still have respectable traffic numbers which they deffinately shouldn't.

Problem is that poker players want to play poker, so anywhere that facilitates that will get business, us who are strong willed and taking the moral high ground may actually be loseing money because of it?
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Hard to know all the facts, but this does seem pretty huge. HH seems legit, and Absolute seems to be semi-acknowledging it



Tons of speculation about whether this was another case of cheating or a malfunction. Either way, it is tremendously damaging to a company still reeling from a huge scandal. I hope, but doubt, that if proven true, this is the end of them.

Side note: I'd pay $5 a month for a subscription service that provided accurate, concise summaries of massive 2+2 threads.
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Old 12-23-08, 12:10 AM
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Thanks. I was rather proud of that one.
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Software error. Got to figure if it wasn't involving Phil it never would have been caught. Very damaging for credibility.

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If only the games werent amazing there
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