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Old 09-02-07, 12:05 AM
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You dont think pokerstars is going to advertise it?

I'll bet you(seriously bet $) that as soon as the school starts youre going to see it on their news pop up window and see a flashy commercial advertising it.
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Old 09-02-07, 12:34 AM
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I don't think any of the newbs really read that. I mean I don't even read that....amd look at me
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Old 09-02-07, 08:22 AM
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If there is one thing I can tell you about Americans after dealing with typical "fish-style" people eight hours a day it's this: they do NOT read. I'm not saying they don't know HOW to read as I'm sure they manage that. It's that they CHOOSE not to.

So, the pop-up means nothing.

Now, the TV commercials - if there are any - THOSE may get their attention but here's where we get to the crux of the issue. How many of these fish are going to want to waste time watching, or, gods forbid, *reading* about how to improve their game. Doing something to improve their game would a) mean they would have to admit that their game needs improving and b) delay them from actually playing.

I'm reminded of a sketch from comedy group The Frantics called Tai-Kwan-Leap (or Boot to the Head). It sums up patience very well...

No, these videos do absolutely NOTHING to worry me that the fish pool will dry up. Let's face it, fish exist because of people seeing pros making the big scores on TV or hearing about Sunday Million winners and they all think I can be next! So they go out and start to play. The fact that they suck means nothing to them as most of them believe either a) it's all luck anyway or b) they don't believe they suck, they think they're great. (Calling a reraise preflop with 62o is always good play isn't it???)

It really boils down to the following: most people simply aren't willing to do anything to help them succeed. They're looking for the quick score - big poker pots, lottery wins, whatever. As soon as they have to work for it, it quits being fun and they lose interest.
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Old 09-02-07, 05:19 PM
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Good point. The fish in any game generally not a static. group. They come and either lose and quit, lose and go somewhere else, or eventually get better and move up (starting the cycle all over again). If providing information does anything, it helps the players who seriously want to get better, get better faster.

Come to think of it, that is what a lot of the old school brick an mortar pros eventually came to say about online poker (in terms of the amount of time needed for the serious player to improve due to the number of hands they get to see online).

Fish come and go, all this could possible change is the rate of that transition.
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Old 09-02-07, 05:14 PM
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Of course they will. However, making it available and making people listen to/use the information are two different things. If they offer anything that isn't available from a lot of other sources, I'd be suprised. (which is kind of the point most people are making here)
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