Live Poker Sucks

[Kurn]

Not only that, but when somebody's being a complete ass at your table, you can't just shut off his chat.

[GeoffM]

LOL.

You also don't earn FPPs that you can use to buy cool merchandise and put towards buyins

[Talking Poker]

You don't get any of your rake back either.

[New Guy]

At the casinos here you do earn fpp points .They are not called that but you can use them for food or whatever.Pretty cool!

[Talking Poker]

Remind me to never play half-pot poker. Actually, no reminder necessary.

Also, remind me to send Zy loads of false tells the next time I see him. Actually, that's not necessary either, because his "reads" on me would be mostly wrong anyway.

[Zybomb]

No need for reads, I'll just outplay you


And yea half pot poker is extremely extremely gay sounding, i dont plan on ever playing that game either

[Spuddy]

Live poker is easier to pick up a read on a player, with body reactions, more talking, less talking, etc.

Online you don't get that.... which makes it a bit harder.

Plus, live play is a lot less easier to NOT tilt (been there! LOL!)

[Zybomb]

Im boosting this thread back to the top -- with undeniable proof that live poker has worse players than online.

If anyone can show me instances which top these 3 I will be severely impressed.

These three hands occured within 90 minutes or so at the same table

HAND 1:

Player goes all in for his last $111 dollars (a $106 raise) 5 callers.

Flop comes 4 3 4

Player first to act MOVES ALL IN for $1700 into a dry side pot with 98o none of which was a club. Everyone folds. All in player turns over A4o for trips and scoops the pot

HAND 2:

Player raises preflop to $25, 2 callers. Flop comes K 7 8

Player bets $50, PFR raises to $200 next player smooth calls, bettor folds.

Turn A . PFR checks, other player checks.

River 2 . PFR checks then TURNS OVER HIS HAND K7. Opponent looks ta his hand and then bets $200

Now I understand maybe he is making a move bc he cant beat K7, so maybe I can justify a call somehow.... still I fold this.... does this player? No no no HE RAISES ALL IN FOR $300 MORE! Opponent calls with 5 4

HAND 3:

UTG player moves all in for $300 with 55 with $5 and $5 blinds. SB calls with KK and busts him

If this does not offer undeniable proof then I don't know what does

[Robbie Robb]

Well....you can....but then security usually gets involved and possibly the police.

[X-Longshot-X]

I personally like playing live vrs online. Online people picture you as some punk ass kid out to take their money. Live, especially at the weekly game, which is mostly my moms friends from work is nice because they give me pots because of how i look. they dont think little 'ol me could bluff them out of the pot. Also i am able to read people much better live. In the long run there is more money to be made online but your decisions can be much easier sometimes live when you can base it off of tells.

[Talking Poker]

If you believe this, nothing else matters. Every other point you could possibly make (other than "it's more social/fun/whatever") is insignificant.

[X-Longshot-X]

If you are playing for a living, then yes nothing else matters, But if you are in a situation like myself where i play pretty much recreationally than you should take other things into account. Plus i only Like live better, if i got serious serious about poker then i know online is the better choice

[Boobie Lover]

Live is only tolerable when you are playing with people that you know, and becomes only slightly amusing if alcohol is involved. Regular live casino action though still resolves to tedious boredom.

[Robbr25]

I like both.
Mainly because reading people live is challenging.
I like that part of live poker that you miss(mostly) online.

[PShabi]

This may sound harsh, but your mom must work with some fat sons of bitches.

[sjay2k]

zomg i just tried live poker

5/10 half-pot at the local casino

so so so silly

trip report

first hand i have KQ and raise to 20 (apparently u can only min raise in half pot preflop?) and get called by 3 players.

flop JT9 rainbow. I half-pot and get called by two players.

turn 2. I half-pot and get called by one player.

river 6. I half-pot, and the other player (plebbish looking middle-age guy) tanks for like five minutes and declares that he's folding; disgustedly tabling pocket 5s (what?). he then proceeds to rave on about how he "can't win a hand" etc.

each hand takes a few minutes and i proceed to get trashed exceptionally quickly (perhaps evident in this post still). beers and daquiris (sp?).

i get no playable cards while the table fish proceed to dump about 5k to the other young guy on the table (who is pretty bad in his on right, btw).

i raise KcTc on the button, nearly the whole table calls. flop QcJc6d. sb leads, bb calls, a few others call and i half-pot. only the bb calls. turn is a 7h and it goes check-check. river 7s and the bb leads out for half-pot. i fold and he shows 89o (what?).

the dealer then squanders 15 minutes of my life trying to work out how to use the dealing machine. more beers consumed here i believe.

i raise 88 on the button and the blinds call. flop 852 rainbow. check, check, i bet half-pot and the bb calls. turn T- the bb check-calls another half-pot bet. river K- the bb check-folds to me, flinging 23o to the muck, mumbling about AK and luck. i can hardly stop myself laughing because i'm so so drunk at this point.

i raise J9s from the cutoff against two limpers and get called five times (obv). flop J83 (two diamonds). checked to me, i half-pot, and utg (terrible,terrible lagfish) calls. the turn is an offsuit 9 and utg min check-raises me. i go allin for not much more (maybe 200 into a 1300 pot i think). he thinks for three minutes, uttering nonsense like "i think we have the same hand" and then, seemingly reluctantly, calls with QTo (nice call, sometimes i fold the nuts personally) and stacks me.

i get more drunk and go home. i'm never playing live poker again. the people are so obnoxious/borderline-retarded, the game is absurdly slow and alcohol impedes my pokering abilities.

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[lightfungus]

That stuff entertains me, but that form of NL seems like a headache. Just imagine if you were paying NL with them...! Oh, and thats why I don't drink when I play...

[sjay2k]

also the lucky young player tells me he normally plays $20 sngs on the internet and i think his buyin represented about 1/2 of his bankroll. well done

[Zybomb]

SJay Hell of a report. LMAO. The funny thing is you will see crazy shit like this all the time when you play Live

On a different note, one other thing I forgot to mention in my response is the benefits of reads

- What kind of chips they put in

- How they put their chips in

- Whether they announce their bet ("Fifty") or just place chips in

- When raising how they raise either 1) Announcing raise while throwing in a call, then going back to raise 2) announcing raise and throwing all the chips in at once 3) just throwing in all the chips with no verbal action.... alot of the time one of these three ways shows strength, the other is an informational raise

In addition to actual facial expressions body language etc. I've made several calls (and laydowns) live that I know for a fact that I wouldn't be able to make on the internet.

- The benefit of running business (HUGE to limit varience)

and more.

Random Note: I had another solid session last night both live and online, bringing me into the positive online for the year (finally) and cruisin along 4 figures overall for the year..