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Old 07-19-06, 03:18 AM
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Default Where do you draw the line?

So I was back at my comfy casino in Arizona, playing what I had planned to be a however long session after work. I get seated at a table that at first was decent, enough so that I didn't feel like the chips were gonna fly that night. In fact, a "pro" there that I have befriended, left the table to go to another one. He's a nice guy, and he has played poker for a living for a while from what I can see. He doesn't seem to make incredible amounts of money, as he is incredibly tight and plays very few hands in a loose game, but he is still doing it so I suppose it is working for him. But I digress, after a little bit of recycling of players, I ended up with a table that I had complete confidence in my reads on every one of them, and thus was very comfortable entering a pot with anyone of them. A couple of them, maybe two, were at the point where they still tried to figure out if they had a draw or not. They thought real hard about their cards and one of them was a donator that I had played with before. He was an ATM. The others were weak players, that were easily pushed around. I was making spot on folds as they would show me every hand because they were so proud they won and all (you know the type).

Now that the scenario is set, I have a question that has sort of been addressed in that great article Zybomb posted, and I quote:
Now I am a very humble person at heart, and am as far from cocky as anybody can be (at least males), but we all fall victim to this now and then. On this particular night, and after reading the article as well, I didn't feel like I was too cocky. I also feel like I proved it, because I did get off of hands when I needed too, and I did fold. But you have to loosen up right? The implied odds of you catching something, and you feeling you have the ability to extract the maximum amount from your opponents, should lower your starting hand requirements right? Especially if you have 4 or 5 of these less than decent poker players in with you, no?

So I guess the question is, how much do you loosen up? Where do you draw the line...because I am tempted to call anything when there are 4 callers preflop and they will pay you off with TP/TK easy.

So to add some metrics to this, lets say at a normal table at this casino, I play 2.5 out of 9 hands. How much do you loosen up when you stand to make oodles of money and you feel like a puppet master in hands with 5-7 out of the nine players ? 4 out of 9? 5 out of 9?

At the same time you get this loose image, and they pay you off even more...
I was thinking about this, because I know I played solid poker, and the combination of poor cards and the wrong side of luck left me much lighter. But is it too risky to play that much looser? Does it pay more to tighten up then to loosen up at a table like this?

Comments?

At least I guided my poker pro buddy too my table, and he got cards and made some money. I felt good about that because he said he was having a rough month and the bills were making him a little uncomfortable. Anyway, I already paid my rent this month .
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