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Old 12-23-04, 02:49 AM
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Good thread.

It's late, and I have a plane to catch in the morning, so I can't respond now.... but I will tell you that this is VERY similar to the subject for an article I plan on writing soon. There are a few things I'd like to explore in detail... things that I think could help the average player's LIMIT game a lot. They aren't common sense at first, but once you understand them and see the light, you'll be surprised at how many more bets you'll win... and I see players NOT doing these things all the time.

The biggest one is "The check and call." This is when you are first to act with one opponent and have a medium to good hand after the river card is dealt. Don't bet! Check to your opponent. I'll go into more detail on this someday, but just wanted to mention it now so you can start thinking about it.

The second situation is pretty much what was described above, but more specifically, what you should do if you have a medium pair, for example - say 88 and the flop comes Q75. I believe you need to bet the turn every time. I didn't used to, until I gave it more thought, and now it's clear to me. Bet it. Is this the same for your AT hand above? Not quite, because the free card is more useful in that situation (there are only two 8s left in the other scenario, so you're not likely to improve).

Again, I'll go into more detail when I have the time.... I'll be itnerested in seeing others responses here too.
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