Nl 200

[PShabi]

I woke up today, and for some reason thought, hey, let's play some NL200. Was doing pretty good, but nothing overwhelming at NL100, but honestly, it just wasn't enough money. Got boring fast.

So, I datamined a bit, and hit the tables. I played two different sessions today. The graph would've been better as one, but I literally had to create a 2nd database before my 2nd session because the one I was using got too big. So, here's two graphs but it's all from one day.




Notice about a $500 loss starting at the end of session 1 and continuing in session 2 where I made some stupid fucking calls for my stack. I was +$700 at one point early, and then dropped as low as +$120ish before i finished on a tear for these totals:

$991
1816 hands


I know it ain't a lot compared to the big ballas on here, but I'm pretty happy about it. NL has really gotten me out of a rut and has me interested in poker again. Not to mention, it's a lot easier to play after playing limit forever. I can't explain why, but table selection using Sixth Sense has been huge for me so far.

Anyway, sorry for the brag, but it was a pretty good day for me.

[eejit101]

nice stats.

i completely agree that for me NL100 has no money in it. if you can play the game as well as you obviously can, then move up, im sure u got he BR and the BR management for it after all the months and months of limit.

And shabi, once your in your in, just ask TP. no more limit for you Trifeboy

[JDMcNugent7]

ur up 4k more than me today.

[Talking Poker]

Nice day. Be prepared though, there will be some days where those graphs are turned upside down, so you need to be able to stomach that too.

About 6th Sense... I downloaded the trial version and used it, but with having to make up my own rules, I didn't really know where to start and I didn't think it was worth it. I thought their default rules were junk, honestly. So I use the PAHud Window for my game selection. It's definitely not ideal - especially when you have more than 16 tables to choose from, but I can almost always find profitable tables, even if they aren't the best ones.

My question to you: Did you make up your own rules to identify fish for NL? If so, what do they look like?

[MAYHEM45]

1. Fish rules. PLayers with >40% vpvip and more than 50bb in their stack get one point. more than 50 vpip and same stack rules is 2 points. 70+ is 3 points.

2. Filter for tables with more than 2 points and get on waiting lists.

3. ????

4. Profit!

[PShabi]

I just use the default rules. It's just a starting point. Once you have stats on 40% or so of the players (I'm not quit there yet for NL200), they work just fine. The default rules presort it and then I just go through and join lists. Before I play, I mine for a bit and have PAHUD on with that table opener AHK program and the stats are displayed right on the table. If a seat comes open on a table that wasn't opened and therefore doesn't have a stat overlay, I just find it on the 6th sense chart and the stats are there anyway. If the seat IN THE RIGHT POSITION opens up, voila. It's more than worth it at this level, where there are 50-70 tables going on in peak times.

I seriously never would've imagined it would be this easy to run players over in NL. I understand there will be losing days, believe me. 6-max limit kicks the shit out of NL in terms of sick, sick losing days and variance. But, there are plenty of players on FTP at this level that will just fold their money over to you all day long. Limp, Limp, I raise 78s OTB, one player calls. K52 flop. CB, ship it. Rinse, repeat. Sure there are times when I have to actually play and read hands, but that's easier in NL too. A lot of the time though, I'm just picking up a lot of small pots. The graph kind of shows that. There are a few times where I stacked/got stacked, but mostly it's just steady gain from picking up small pot after small pot. It literally amazes me at how people just let me take the amount of pots that I do. I'm not talking all yesterday either, cause I did log 12k hands at NL100 before this.

Seat selection, seat selection, seat selection.



Actually, my roll is tiny these days. I was up about 12k through the end of May and then hit that sick, sick, sick June run where I dumped about 4k. Bonuses and RB kind of negated that for the most part (thank god for that acceler8tor shit Party had) but the rest of the year (from June til Nov) I pretty much broke even, which sucked hard. I spent 5k moving to Vegas and then took a bunch out for Christmas shopping, which has been the practice for 3 years now. Anyway, all that left me slightly over-rrolled for NL100. I still don't quite have 4k online, but fuck it, I took a gamble.

If it bites me in the ass, I'll move down to 100 again, but I think I'll be fine here.

[Talking Poker]

Regarding seat selection, do you still like to have the biggest fish immediately to your right, like you did in limit?

For me, it depends... If there is one megafish at the table, I prefer to have him to my right, but if there is one VERY solid player and a few fish, for example, then I prefer to have the solid player to my right. I like to be the one doing the 3 betting in position and not the one getting 3 bet. I find I have much more success against strong (good) players when I have position on them, and I can beat the fish pretty much regardless of where they are sitting.

[PShabi]

Fish to the right.

In all seriousness, there are 6-max tables with ZERO good players at them, sometimes maybe 1 at both NL100 & 200 on FTP. I'm generally sitting at tables with player who have preflop stats like

36/8
24/2
18/5
etc.

Fit or fold fools.

It's not the mega loose fish I played with in LHE games, but in a NL setting there just as easy, if not easier to beat up on.

[eejit101]

holy shit, a thread where me and shabi arent slanging each other, may is last for a lifetime.

Sad to hear about the BR going down, but you know what your doing, gl to ya man