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12-18-06, 01:13 AM
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If you are feeling unlucky, read this...
...and you should start feeling better immediately.
That right kids, that there be a out outer. This isn't my worst beat ever, but it's pretty bad, especially if you consider how HORRIBLE of a play he made, calling that HUGE bet drawing to exactly one out. I  poker.Full Tilt Poker Game #1429526224: Table Alta (6 max) - $2/$4 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:07:32 ET - 2006/12/18 Seat 1: tehdragon ($485.60) Seat 2: GiVeMeTheCake ($400) Seat 3: AKA212 ($670.30) <--Typical idiot. Seat 4: russ6897 ($225.65) Seat 5: Troll Pie ($450) Seat 6: dustinlax33 ($717.05) dustinlax33 posts the small blind of $2 tehdragon posts the big blind of $4 The button is in seat #5 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Troll Pie [8h 9d] AKA212 calls $4 russ6897 folds Troll Pie raises to $18 dustinlax33 folds tehdragon folds AKA212 calls $14 *** FLOP *** [5d 7d 6d] AKA212 checks Troll Pie bets $24 AKA212 raises to $100 Troll Pie raises to $432, and is all in AKA212 calls $332 Call of the day, right there, kids. Troll Pie shows [8h 9d] AKA212 shows [3h 3d]  I mean, seriously, what could he be chading here? Did he think a 3 would be good? Or was he going for the gutshot? Surely he didn't think he "flush draw" would be good, right? I would literally discount all of those outs to nothing if I was in his shoes. All he can beat is a pure bluff. *** TURN *** [5d 7d 6d] [2s] AKA212: nh But fear not, friends, for the river is here!!! *** RIVER *** [5d 7d 6d 2s] [4d] Troll Pie shows a flush, Nine high AKA212 shows a straight flush, Seven high AKA212 wins the pot ($903) with a straight flush, Seven high Troll Pie is sitting out  *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $906 | Rake $3 It's no fucking wonder I can't log winning sessions any more. I mean, this one ridiculous beat alone cost me more than 2 buy ins. And it's not like this is an isolated incident... it just happens to be the worst of today's pile of bullshit. Board: [5d 7d 6d 2s 4d] Seat 1: tehdragon (big blind) folded before the Flop Seat 2: GiVeMeTheCake is sitting out Seat 3: AKA212 showed [3h 3d] and won ($903) with a straight flush, Seven high Seat 4: russ6897 didn't bet (folded) Seat 5: Troll Pie (button) showed [8h 9d] and lost with a flush, Nine high Seat 6: dustinlax33 (small blind) folded before the Flop |
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12-18-06, 02:12 AM
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apologies for posting strategy thoughts. the one-outter sucks, but i'm just a little confused about raising 98o, even OTB, with a limper up front. perhaps i should have replied with an irrelevant allusion to my own bad luck. |
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12-18-06, 02:23 AM
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Like I said, if you never raise 98o OTB after an UTG limper, I'm not sure how much more we have to discuss. Cause I do.
Maybe your way is right and mine is wrong or vice versa, but I'm inclined to think either are ok, so long as whatever you do fits with your style and you are a competent player after the flop. I'm leaning (significantly) toward my way, of course, since if you flat out don't play connectors like this, I think you are probably way too predictable at the table and observant opponents will realize you are a nit and never play speculative hands. |
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12-18-06, 10:08 AM
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OK that's fine, and I was frustrated. But I get tired of reading the 1-liner strategy posts with no explanation to them. Maybe sometimes that's all you need, because it seems fairly straightforward.
But, depending on how loose-passive is, aren't you supposed to be attacking their early position limps with all kinds of cards from the button? I don't see how you can just say, "duh, don't raise preflop with crap," when that clearly wasn't the issue in the hand. |
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#9
12-18-06, 02:07 AM
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Well, duh.
But there is also nothing wrong with raising with it from the button after an UTG limper with deep stacks, depending on your image at the table, the flow of the game, and so on, IMO. In fact, I'll say that I raise with this here more than 50% of the time, so if you think this is a 100% fold 100% of the time, well, we will have to agree to disagree. |
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12-18-06, 02:09 AM
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Also, I would like to point out how unlike where all the money went in when hero was well behind, I was just about as far ahead as one can get when the money went in here. So yeah, this was a bad beat.
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12-18-06, 02:23 AM
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Making a point about what constitutes a bad beat. Nothing personal against Penguin at all.
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