Time to ask for help

[MathBabe]

PartyPoker. $.50/$1 Limit, full tables.

Since the beginning of the month: 4,267 hands.
I'm averaging -2.53 BB/100. Note the negative.

This isn't huge money, of course, but it concerns me. It looks like only about 1/3 of my sessions are winning ones. I don't want to piss away my Intertops bonus playing $1/$2, trying to clear it.

I've been posting a few hand histories here and there, and I can post more. But where should I look to find an overall leak that might be causing this? Is it worth posting PokerTracker stats for you guys to take a look at?

[2Tone]

It seems irresponsible to be advocating that you move up limits if you aren’t beating the 50/1 game, but I do need to point out that the rake at 2/4 is significantly less than 50/1 on a percentage basis. PT will enable you to see how much rake you paid, correct?

It would take some figuring, but being a mathbabe and all, you might want to check out and figure out if the reduced rake percentage at the 2/4 game would account for 2.5BB per 100 hands.

Disclaimer: Of course, never play at a limit higher than you are comfortable at and have the roll to support.

[johnp158]

That's a pretty huge jump. The skill level at 2/4 surely would be enough to negate any rake advantage at this point.

[Aequitas58]

IMO, I don't think the level of skill "difference" is as much as you suggest. Especially at the Bad Beat Jackpot $2/4 tables, the play is incredibly bad.

[Talking Poker]

This may be true, but I think a bigger issue is that if you are losing at $.50/$1, it's likely that you will be losing 4 times as much at $2/$4.

As or the BBJ.... all that does is add to the rake. It doesn't really matter how bad your opponents are if you are playing badly yourself.

[Aequitas58]

Absolutely.

Do YOU think that john is right, though? Maybe I'm wrong, but I really don't think the players at $2/4 are that much better than the $.50/1 players.

[BrianSwa]

yea I agree play level isnt that good until you reach 5/10 even at 3/6 its bad.

[BrianSwa]

my opinion,

I'm bankrolled for $50 and almost $100 NL but Im sticking to $25 NL for the simple fact that im not ready to put $50 into a pot. Limit on the other hand Iam bankrolled for $1/$2 and have no problem playing there and I also play $2/$4 even though im not completley bankrolled for it im really comfortable there.

Sure bankroll is important and all but I think you being able to play the level comfortably is much more important. Honestly it dosent matter what your end results for that month are! sure you had a bad month oh well. If you arnt comfortable moving up dont move up plain and simple.

[Talking Poker]

Post your PT numbers. A screenshot will do.

But I can tell you right now, without even looking at them: you are too passive and you are overplaing weak hands. You need to be raising more on the flop, folding more on the turn, and calling more on the river.

That probably sounds crazy, but I'll bet it's pretty accurate.

Also, keep in mind that 4k hands is nothing. It's enough that most of your PT numbers will be significant.... but the one that won't be is your BB/100.

[Aequitas58]

nh.

[MathBabe]

I finally found the old "Rip my pt numbers apart" thread that nutbag started last September, where pshabi posted the ideal stats. ()

So here are mine, even though no-one asked: (EDIT: You asked, it just took me an hour to type this... :-) )
VPIP: 17.51% (fine)
PFR: 7.74% (fine)
VPIP from SB: 32.74% (fine)
Saw flop all hands: 22.40% (fine)
WSD: 31.74% (fine)
WSF: 29.55% (fine)
W$SD: 51.15% (fine)
FRB: 31.50% (hm... low???)
AF: Flop 2.31, Turn 1.87, River 1.4; Total 1.18. (Definitely low).
When folds: No fold 11.19%, pre-flop 76.50%, flop 8.74%, turn 2.61%, river .96%.
Win-rate: (We already know it's low.)

I'm surprised that my agression stats are low, since the last time I looked, PokerTracker rated me as "aggressive". I see now that their threshold is 1.5, not 2, though, and clearly I've been slipping.

Okay, now I know what hand histories to look for. I'll also try out that video thing that was mentioned in the same thread, that Rogue23 thought I might be a good candidate for at the time.