Turbo vs Non-turbo

[Spuddy]

Just having a debate with another friend that plays. I have recently began to grind $5 non-turbos 9 man player.

He thinks it is more profitable to play turbos, b/c you can play more and get more in within an hour. Just more wild swings.

I however, think that the non-turbo (despite being micro limits) has more skilled involved rather than just choosing the right spots to push. Your basically going to have double up at least once to cash in turbo, whereas non-turbo you can play more.

I also feel that non-turbo players are tight, hence stealing is easier and more profitable. Which increases odds of going deeper.

Thoughts? Kurn?

[Kurn]

More volatility in turbos.

Less opportunity to use postflop skill in turbos. But, be aware that SNGs have limited opportunities for real high-level postflop play. They're just too short-stacked most of the time, and at the beginning where you have deepish stacks, you'd rather play chip preservation than chip accumulation anyway.

I suspect the best turbo players have a lower ROI than the best non-turbo players, but if you can sustain a +ROI, turbos clearly provide your best hourly rate.

OTOH, as my results indicate, I play standard SNGs because I am much better at them than I am at turbos.

Not sure exactly why. May more be psychological than anything else.

[Reel Deal]

Could it be that it's because you're a much better post flop player than the standard SNG monkey? Me thinks that's probably the answer.

[Kurn]

SNG post flop play consists mainly of 1. knowing, during the middle levels, when you can c-bet after raising preflop, 2. during early rounds, when you're fairly certain you've flopped the best hand, knowing how to extract the most value from bad players (good players at the $30 - $100 level tend to play too tight post flop to get much value from), 3. when HU fairly early, be able to manipulate opponents.

For me, I think I'm better at non-turbos for one main reason. I have more time to profile the non-regulars at the table, which allows me to make better preflop decisions on raising limpers and restealing. I have a few $30 - $50 regulars who are strong winners 8%+ ROI against whom I have 1500+ hands. I know exactly how they play, so even though they're tough, they pose less a problem in certain situations than the people I'm seeing for the first time.

[Spuddy]

So your pro-non-turbo when playing based on your preferred post-flop skills?

How about other people? Are you pro-turbo or pro-non-turbo?

Thanks in advance.

I was having a fairly heated debate with my buddy, whose a member here actually, and he said that most everyone would agree that playing turbos are better than non-turbos based on the volume you can play to make more $