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04-27-05, 08:29 PM
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Starting bankroll
Lets put aside everything I have done in the past....what is a good starting bankroll for online play. I know this might have alot to do with what level of play you would like to play. Lets say you are a teacher and you are teaching a new student (not to far off truth) how much money do you suggest they start at and at what level? limit or no-limit? I was thinking no limit might be bad idea right now so I was thinking $300 in .50/1.00 what do you think?
I figure it a big waste making $50 deposits because really you cant play any level at party poker with that cash and if you take bad swing its gone. |
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04-27-05, 08:38 PM
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I figure if you just listened the first 90 times you read it, that a 300BigBet Bankroll is decent for any limit.
Of course it doesn't matter how big the bankroll is if the player is a losing player.
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04-27-05, 08:45 PM
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ummm
that wasnt the question I asked. I asked if you where the teacher what level would you have someone start at? Would you start them at micro-limit no limit tables or would you start them at .50/1.00. I know the correct bankroll needed for each level just want to know where to start. Yes chip im a losing player that pretty damn obvious thanks for rubbing it in boss. 
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04-27-05, 09:23 PM
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$10,000.
If you start with $10,000, you can (barely) play $15/30 at Party. These are soft games and there is a LOT of money to be made at this level. If you are a winning player, of course. |
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04-27-05, 09:55 PM
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Ya Baby!
You giving out loans?
BTW - I have played the 15/30 6-Max and THEY ARE SOFT!
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04-27-05, 10:04 PM
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You can say that again. Reminds me of 1/2, only way more aggressive.
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04-28-05, 02:09 PM
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I think TP is right here Brian... in order to take swings at that level you prolly need that much.
10,000 = 333 BBs which is plenty for lower levels but if you hit a bad swing at 15/30 with 100 BBs you will quickly lose your BR and/or prolly tilt off the rest from the massive swing in your BR. |
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04-27-05, 08:47 PM
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We have through this again? You need to learn simple concepts like variance, money management, discipline, and patience. At this point, I think it's useless for one of us to throw out a dollar value and for you to run with it.
Play for entertainment value, Brian.
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04-27-05, 08:50 PM
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it is
at this point it is but I would like to get better eventully Lou. I wish I would of came to this forum before I got set in bad habits but unfortantly I didnt and havent been able to break them yet. I do appritiate the honesty from this forum as brutal as it is at times. Just want to know where to start to improve, I agree i lack some if not all of those qualitys you meantioned. I believe I can get better in time and want to work on it. Its the discipline and variance I lack the most I seem to play very good poker for a little while but when I hit one bad beat I go off the deep end. That is how I lost that 2 grand, played great poker for 3 days then hit a couple bad beats and went crazy and blew it. I think if I can learn to control that then I might be able to become a winning player. Last edited by BrianSwa; 04-27-05 at 08:55 PM. |
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04-27-05, 08:59 PM
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Well, to put it bluntly...
I recall trying to help you in the past. Offering advice to "get better," strategical help on certain hand histories, books you should read, articles, etc ... but over and over it seemed like you never listened. I'm not going through it again just because you feel like creating a new thread. Go back and search the forum. If someone wants to come forward and offer their advice (possibly AGAIN) then more power to you ... but I can't anymore. G'luck.
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04-27-05, 09:04 PM
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No problem. Like I said, go back and search. The advice given is still good and will still work.
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04-27-05, 09:07 PM
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Yup
I find I like to start with 300. At 25/NL. If I start with less it is usually a crap shoot as to variance sucking out on me, and losing it all. I find 300 is a good toe hold and I can build a roll from there.
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05-01-05, 06:50 PM
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Brian,
I just noticed on your blog you have your "starting" and "current" balances. It seems that you restart this every time you bust out and put a another $50-$100 in somewhere. I would suggest that if you really want to get a picture of how you are doing as a player that you pick a start date and from then on keep a running total (which may be negative) with the intention of attempting to be a winning player instead of just not trying to bust out your $50 in a matter of 2-3 days. I realize from your posts in the past that you are, IMO, a recreational player in that you seem to want to play .50/1.00 or $10-$25 NL even if that is more than the bankroll that you "currently" have alotted to poker. My opinion is that with that mindset you will almost always lose at some point even if you get up $100's, you will keep playing until you lose it (going up in limits, etc). Then you can take a break and start clean with a new $50. This could be fun for you and if it is go for it. Not sure if this will help you personally in the long run, but I think you may be fooling yourself by having a positive win on your site when you are really down because of the last 3-4 $50's you lost. I personally would rather know if I was winning and losing overall year to year, rather than playing deposit to deposit, but how you manage your playing is still, ultimately, up to you. Good luck |
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05-01-05, 07:06 PM
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great advice, I will start now since the money im using is part of the deposit im doing on the 20th. check it out now and ive stepped way way down levels im sticking to .05/.10 NL until I get to $600 no matter what. Last edited by BrianSwa; 05-01-05 at 07:09 PM. |
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05-01-05, 09:46 PM
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If you have a limited bankroll, the easiest/best way to get it rolling is to bonus whore. Especially with the first deposit bonus for new sites, you should maximize the bonuses that are easily obtainable each and every time and drop away with sites that are harder to clear for lower limits.
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05-01-05, 11:06 PM
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Stop lying to yourself and stop lying to us. You can't tell me that once you get to $200 or $300 (if you get there...) that you will stick w/ 5c/10c NL.
... And if you do, that's just stupid.
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