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No raise allowed?
***** Hand History for Game 2840277873 *****
$100 NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, October 07, 05:31:42 EDT 2005 Table Table 37693 (Real Money) Seat 9 is the button Total number of players : 10 Seat 1: Alloutbully ( $85.70 ) Seat 2: PokerApex ( $92.89 ) Seat 3: MONEYTREE808 ( $43.73 ) Seat 4: La_Nicksage ( $118.40 ) Seat 7: FourClover01 ( $119.55 ) Seat 9: malika913 ( $174.95 ) Seat 8: Soapmakers ( $102.25 ) Seat 6: grandmama66 ( $96.50 ) Seat 5: FoSaChys_Sis ( $46.50 ) Seat 10: RivrRatFAFA ( $29 ) RivrRatFAFA posts small blind [$0.50]. Alloutbully posts big blind [$1]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to Soapmakers [ 7d 7h ] >You have options at Three-Table(482205) Table #1 Table!. PokerApex folds. MONEYTREE808 calls [$1]. La_Nicksage folds. FoSaChys_Sis folds. grandmama66 folds. FourClover01 folds. Soapmakers calls [$1]. >You have options at Three-Table(482205) Table #1 Table!. >You have options at Three-Table(482205) Table #1 Table!. malika913 folds. RivrRatFAFA calls [$0.50]. Alloutbully checks. >You have options at Three-Table(482205) Table #1 Table!. ** Dealing Flop ** [ 6d, Ac, 7s ] >You have options at Three-Table(482205) Table #1 Table!. RivrRatFAFA bets [$1]. Alloutbully calls [$1]. MONEYTREE808 calls [$1]. >You have options at Three-Table(482205) Table #1 Table!. Soapmakers raises [$4]. RivrRatFAFA calls [$3]. Alloutbully calls [$3]. MONEYTREE808 calls [$3]. ** Dealing Turn ** [ 3s ] RivrRatFAFA checks. Alloutbully checks. MONEYTREE808 checks. Soapmakers bets [$15]. RivrRatFAFA is all-In [$24] Alloutbully calls [$24]. MONEYTREE808 calls [$24]. Soapmakers calls [$9]. The only options I was given was to call or fold. I understand that the all-in raise by RiverRatFAFA was not double my bet, so it wasn't a "standard" raise, but shouldn't I have been given a chance to make another play, rather than simply calling? |
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He actually didn't raise you since it wasn't double the current bet, so as the person who already placed the current bet, you can't re-raise yourself. I believe that the others at the table have the option of "under-raising" (which is an option that popped up at one site once), but you can't since you already bet and were not raised.
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Ignoring the numbers for the time being, if there is no raise after your bet, you are not given the option to raise yourself (obviously). So this becomes a question of what is a raise?
I *thought* that in a tourney, a raise was definied as a full bet $15 in this cash), while in a cash game, a raise only needed to be half of a bet ($7.50 in this case). Obviously I'm wrong about this, based on the option you were (not) given. I wonder if this is site specific and if a different site would have handled the exact same situation differently. |
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I thought the standard of "raise" was defined as equal or greater to the last bet??
player 1 bets $10 Player two rasies $20 to $30 total Player 3 wants to raise... it has to be at least $20 more (to $50+ total).
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Correct.... but for an all-in situation, I know there are some situations where half of a legal raise opens the action when it comes around again.
I thought so anyway. |
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I'm pretty sure that, in limit, half a bet constitutes a raise in this situation. In NL, however, it needs to be a full raise for you to be able to reraise. Don't quote me on that. I don't have time, but look at cardplayer. There are a couple recent articles dealing with this issue.
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