The TalkingPoker.com Forum  

Go Back   The TalkingPoker.com Forum > All Things Poker > General Poker Discussion
Register Blogs Arcade HH Converter Calendar

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-28-05, 08:01 PM
Zybomb's Avatar
Zybomb Zybomb is offline
TP Live Ring Specialist
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Queens, NY
Posts: 6,607
Blog Entries: 7
Zybomb has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsZybomb has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsZybomb has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsZybomb has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsZybomb has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsZybomb has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsZybomb has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsZybomb has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsZybomb has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsZybomb has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsZybomb has between 3000 and 3499 Rep Points
Default Is this a possibility?

This question came off of the topic about Frangos folding QQ, after the pot had been opened, re raised, and re re raised preflop, before the action came to him. (Its under the Poker on TV heading if you havent seen it yet)

To quickly summarize, the pot had been been opened with a player holding 109s, reraised by a player holding KK then re-reraised by a player holding JJ. At this point the action went to Nick Frangos.

Frangos, before checking his whole cards said "Please ---- one time" indicating, give me Pocket Aces just once when the action is this strong. Now assume that Frangos was the chip leader at this point. If I recall although the pot had been raised numerous times, no one was all in yet, nor was anyone pot committed based on their stack.

If Frangos looked down at his cards, looked back up and gave a shrugging "Im all in" He basically non verbally just said I HAVE AA

Could that of picked up the pot?
  #2  
Old 07-28-05, 08:11 PM
kkirk1329's Avatar
kkirk1329 kkirk1329 is offline
Ohhhh Shit.
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: morgantown
Posts: 1,416
kkirk1329 has between 250 and 499 Rep Pointskkirk1329 has between 250 and 499 Rep Pointskkirk1329 has between 250 and 499 Rep Pointskkirk1329 has between 250 and 499 Rep Points
Default

i doubt KK folds in that position the JJ might but i doubt the kings will lay down there
  #3  
Old 07-28-05, 08:14 PM
Zybomb's Avatar
Zybomb Zybomb is offline
TP Live Ring Specialist
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Queens, NY
Posts: 6,607
Blog Entries: 7
Zybomb has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsZybomb has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsZybomb has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsZybomb has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsZybomb has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsZybomb has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsZybomb has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsZybomb has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsZybomb has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsZybomb has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsZybomb has between 3000 and 3499 Rep Points
Default

Not saying that I disagree with you, or that I agree either....but keep in mind Frangos basically just told the whole table if I get anything besides AA im folding here. And he doesnt fold, he goes all in... I dunno if you could have a clearer image of an exact hand than in this situation (even though here it was using that knowledge to try to be deceiving)

Also, underquestionably JJ folds, the question is KK
  #4  
Old 07-28-05, 08:15 PM
kkirk1329's Avatar
kkirk1329 kkirk1329 is offline
Ohhhh Shit.
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: morgantown
Posts: 1,416
kkirk1329 has between 250 and 499 Rep Pointskkirk1329 has between 250 and 499 Rep Pointskkirk1329 has between 250 and 499 Rep Pointskkirk1329 has between 250 and 499 Rep Points
Default

i dunno i just dont see the KK folding in this situation, its just to big of a laydown to make when he could have just found a hand like QQ and felt like he could lay that down into that big of a pot

he didnt basically say hes folding anything less than AA he is just asking for a good hand in this situation, which he gets but he was obviously good enough to ditch the queens
  #5  
Old 07-28-05, 08:19 PM
johnp158's Avatar
johnp158 johnp158 is offline
Shark
 

Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: DC
Posts: 833
johnp158 has between 250 and 499 Rep Pointsjohnp158 has between 250 and 499 Rep Pointsjohnp158 has between 250 and 499 Rep Pointsjohnp158 has between 250 and 499 Rep Points
Default

I guess this is just hypothetical, but in that specific situation, JJ was all-in
  #6  
Old 07-28-05, 08:22 PM
Zybomb's Avatar
Zybomb Zybomb is offline
TP Live Ring Specialist
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Queens, NY
Posts: 6,607
Blog Entries: 7
Zybomb has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsZybomb has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsZybomb has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsZybomb has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsZybomb has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsZybomb has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsZybomb has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsZybomb has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsZybomb has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsZybomb has between 3000 and 3499 Rep PointsZybomb has between 3000 and 3499 Rep Points
Default

If I remember correctly, JJ was not all in, he made a reraise large enough to put the original reraiser (Lindgren) all in, but did not declare "all in" himself.

At least Im pretty sure
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:14 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
©2004-2008 TalkingPoker.com