Collusion Online

brokeagain · #1 10-25-04, 03:57 PM

Next time when you sit down online, open up your AIM and try sending a message to the handles at the table. You'll be suprised at how many players use the same AIM handle as they do their poker handle. This is just something I do to pass the time, see who is using AIM and tell support about it.

GeoffM · #2 10-25-04, 04:13 PM

Good idea, but I assume this is only for higher limits players. At low limits, I am not really worried about online colluders, since they are probably not very good at it to be doing it at low limits to begin with.

Charlie Frank · #3 10-26-04, 03:47 AM

Exactly.

Unless you are very confident in your ability to detect collusion, it pays to stay at the lower limits.

Because I can guarantee you that there are many people who are colluding at some level in the higher limits. It's a simple fact of life - where there is money to be had, some people are willing to do anything to get their hands on that money.

CF

jimmytheg · #4 10-26-04, 06:30 AM

pokerstars has proven to be very good at not only stopping colluders, but also returning money to players who were cheated.

granted they cant stop all of it, but they do make an effort, which is more than i can say for other sites.

on a side note, hopefully russ g...aka newgca....wont find this site and start his rantings yet again

ChipFish · #5 10-26-04, 07:50 AM

I kind of liked Russ....
He was good for alot of information....
His articles were actually really good.

for those of you who want to read his articles....
They are actually a must read.

GeoffM · #6 10-26-04, 08:34 AM

Sometimes it could even benefit to play colluders, especially when you do catch the nuts and slowplay them. These maniacs would be raising all around you and you can simply continue to call, call, call and not even have to raise the pot to get maximum value from it.

eddo31 · #7 10-26-04, 01:20 PM

i really like a lot of the strategy posts by russ. i thought the o8b post was great. it really helped my game.

the rantings get a little bit old, but i think that they actually have a lot more substance than most people would like to recognize. hopefully, his info is outdated though.

brokeagain · #8 10-26-04, 10:43 AM

You don't think there are people exchanging hole card info in the low limits like $25NL, 1/2 and 2/4 limits? Better think again.

2Tone · #9 10-26-04, 01:51 PM

But if they are ...

Either it is not very widespread

- OR -

They aren't dominating the tables

Because I remain confident that these games are very beatable.

Charlie Frank · #10 10-26-04, 05:39 PM

I'm quite sure there are.

It's just that they wouldn't be very effective at what they do, or else they wouldn't be in the low limits. They would be making a killing at the higher limits.

CF

brokeagain · #11 10-26-04, 05:49 PM

Wake up and smell the coffee

ChipFish · #12 10-25-04, 04:19 PM

Wouldn't that mean that support would have to put you in the same category
as them? Afteral, you had AIM going too.

brokeagain · #13 10-25-04, 04:21 PM

it pays to stay anonymous

2Tone · #14 10-25-04, 04:35 PM

Is it against the sites' terms of service merely to have AIM or another IM client running? Even if there is no evidence of collusion?

GeoffM · #15 10-25-04, 04:49 PM

LMFAO.

I think watching the hand history and such for any odd-ball behaviour is the best way to go.

ChipFish · #16 10-25-04, 05:27 PM

Bingo!

Frontin · #17 10-25-04, 05:50 PM

Do those algorithms that Party and other sites claim to use really detect collusion??

johnbaker · #18 10-25-04, 05:58 PM

probably not, unless you have a bunch of computers set up in one room using the same internet line at the same table.