I understand all of this..... but when UTG raises to 4x the BB and you look down to see J2o UTG+1, you don't need to count to 2, 3, or 5.... It's ok to instafold. Anything else is just slowing down the game, and it's annoying.
Imagine if everyone played like that. The average hand would take 3 or 4 minutes to complete (assuming people still took a long time when it was warranted), and I'd be looking for a new hobby.
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