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Old 10-31-04, 04:00 PM
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Default Low connectors against a medium raise

Danny Ns column in cardplayer magazine made me think about this situation a good bit: he sees 75 suited and raises, and a few seats behind gets reraised for about 3 times the size of his raise. He calls with the logic that he thinks the raiser has a high pair and if he catches his straight or flush, he can break that stack (also that his cards are completely live).

Now heres what Im wondering. Its along the lines of implied odds here...So lets say youre reading your opponent for AA, which is what you want here. For calculating your implied odds when you hit, how much of your opponents stack goes into consideration here? If you flop 689, how sure can you be your opponent is going to push in against a non-threatening board? This question is significant, because it determines how much of a raise you can call preflop with that hand.

Now lets say you misread him and he is only holding QQ...you call, expecting your opponent to push against a non-threatening board, but if you play back at him, those queens are a LOT more likely to hit the muck than the aces, and I honestly think it is close to impossible to distinguish AA from QQ preflop...How does that play into your overall implied odds?

Same thing goes for a strong ace, big slick etc...all those hands will be played quite similar, and while your cards are still live and non-threatening, those hands cut down severely on your implied odds, i.e. your opponent is far less likely to push if you hit...

So, smart play or not by Danny here, and in general with the medium suited connectors?

Defendant