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kmb13592 01-04-06 05:15 PM

3 tough losses in about 3 minutes
 
Man am i upset. So I start the day off with a dollar in my pokerstars accoutn and start playin .01/.02 tables. I get up and I have 1 dollar in my bank and about 3 dollars each at 2 different tables. At one table I lose a 5 dollar hand with AA against AK, the board came out KJ36K. About a minute later at my other table this happens;

PokerStars Game #3532788674: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2006/01/04 - 17:05:35 (ET)
Table 'Gordonia III' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: forbsmtff ($2.02 in chips)
Seat 2: shamrock6799 ($1.07 in chips)
Seat 3: Kyote Roze ($0.60 in chips)
Seat 4: kmb4 ($2.56 in chips)
Seat 5: rizzer1 ($1.17 in chips)
Seat 6: bC oF yOu x ($2.40 in chips)
shamrock6799: posts small blind $0.01
Kyote Roze: posts big blind $0.02
bC oF yOu x: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to kmb4 [4s 4h]
kmb4: calls $0.02
rizzer1: folds
bC oF yOu x has timed out
bC oF yOu x: folds
bC oF yOu x is sitting out
forbsmtff: raises $0.04 to $0.06
shamrock6799: folds
Kyote Roze: calls $0.04
kmb4: calls $0.04
*** FLOP *** [Ts Ks 4d]
Kyote Roze: checks
kmb4: bets $0.04
forbsmtff: calls $0.04
Kyote Roze: folds
*** TURN *** [Ts Ks 4d] [8d]
bC oF yOu x has returned
kmb4: bets $0.10
forbsmtff: calls $0.10
*** RIVER *** [Ts Ks 4d 8d] [Jc]
kmb4: bets $0.26
forbsmtff: raises $1.56 to $1.82 and is all-in
kmb4: calls $1.56
*** SHOW DOWN ***
forbsmtff: shows [Js Jh] (three of a kind, Jacks)
kmb4: shows [4s 4h] (three of a kind, Fours)
forbsmtff collected $3.93 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4.13 | Rake $0.20
Board [Ts Ks 4d 8d Jc]
Seat 1: forbsmtff (button) showed [Js Jh] and won ($3.93) with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 2: shamrock6799 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Kyote Roze (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: kmb4 showed [4s 4h] and lost with three of a kind, Fours
Seat 5: rizzer1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: bC oF yOu x folded before Flop


I think this is when I started crying, but it only got worse. The next hand I'm dealt JJ, and maybe the play was not spectacular but watch what happens;

PokerStars Game #3532817380: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2006/01/04 - 17:08:50 (ET)
Table 'Gordonia III' Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: forbsmtff ($3.93 in chips)
Seat 2: shamrock6799 ($1.06 in chips)
Seat 3: Kyote Roze ($0.54 in chips)
Seat 4: kmb4 ($0.54 in chips)
Seat 5: rizzer1 ($1.17 in chips)
Seat 6: bC oF yOu x ($2.38 in chips)
Kyote Roze: posts small blind $0.01
kmb4: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to kmb4 [Jh Jc]
rizzer1: calls $0.02
bC oF yOu x: folds
forbsmtff: calls $0.02
shamrock6799: folds
Kyote Roze: calls $0.01
kmb4: raises $0.52 to $0.54 and is all-in
rizzer1: calls $0.52
forbsmtff: calls $0.52
Kyote Roze: folds
*** FLOP *** [5d Ks Qh]
rizzer1: checks
forbsmtff: checks
*** TURN *** [5d Ks Qh] [7h]
rizzer1: checks
forbsmtff: checks
*** RIVER *** [5d Ks Qh 7h] [9d]
rizzer1: checks
forbsmtff: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
kmb4: shows [Jh Jc] (a pair of Jacks)
rizzer1: shows [9c 9s] (three of a kind, Nines)
forbsmtff: mucks hand
rizzer1 collected $1.59 from pot
kmb4 said, "omg"
bC oF yOu x said, "haha"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1.64 | Rake $0.05
Board [5d Ks Qh 7h 9d]
Seat 1: forbsmtff mucked [6d 6s]
Seat 2: shamrock6799 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Kyote Roze (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: kmb4 (big blind) showed [Jh Jc] and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 5: rizzer1 showed [9c 9s] and won ($1.59) with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 6: bC oF yOu x folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Nikita 01-04-06 06:24 PM

Personally, at these limits, I won't play pocket 4s in early position. I'd rather fold then limp because there are too many people who will play anything. Even if I did limp, once it was raised, I fold. I don't want to be acting first with this hand. Even at higher limits, I'd probably play the same way.

wdson01 01-04-06 06:55 PM

on that hand, there was a raise to .06 (3xBB) and there was one caller. I am a pot odds guy, so you are getting over 2 to 1 on that hand (including blinds) so i dont mind that call, being that i would have probably have made the call to hit a 4 on the flop. I don't mind the play on the flop, but there is a flush AND straight draw out there...so protect against that flop by betting about the pot. If he happens to call (assuming hes on the flush draw), the turn was a marginal card to come. Again, i would bet the pot here since there are too many draws out there.

lightfungus 01-04-06 06:58 PM

I dont do stats but 2 to 1 is not enough to call for +EV. Even then, you should have bet harder and faster at such low limits.

BrianSwa 01-04-06 07:24 PM

ok
 

I disagree with this! at this limit I will run ANY pocket in ANY postion for the main reason that if you hit your set you will most likley bust someone. I will play this same way all the way up to $25NL because people overplay there hands at this level and will put all there money in the middle with TPTK.

I will also call raises with any pocket for same reason, now im not going all in with it but small raises I will just because of my implied odds.


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