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PShabi 11-21-04 10:18 AM

Quick Question: low limit
 
If you're in the big blind, the first guy in raises, and everyone else, including the small blind folds, what are your requirements to call that bet?

Sometimes, I think, call and try to out play him with your 9 10 offsuit. I guess for me, if I have a good read on the player and what they would raise with in early position, I make a decision based on that.

If you don't know anything though, what are your hand requirements to play?

SirFWALGMan 11-21-04 10:31 AM

You usually need a very good hand to play this. Your going to have to act first all the way to the river. I would fold marginal hands like straight draws.

PShabi 11-21-04 10:40 AM

Right, usually. So, you might play back against a maniac right?

brokeagain 11-21-04 11:28 AM

If it is low limit you only need 2 cards, but make sure to use the 5 put out on the board to make your best hand. :)

brokeagain 11-21-04 11:29 AM

Go ahead, play back against a maniac at low limit LOL

PShabi 11-21-04 01:00 PM

Do I sense sarcasm, high roller?

Aequitas58 11-21-04 02:09 PM

You wouldn't be wrong to play back at the maniac in this situation ... and you wouldn't be wrong to play back at a maniac EVER - that is: if he's really a maniac, and you can SOMEHOW support it through your cards.

Aequitas58 11-21-04 02:16 PM

It's tough since I don't know how how the original raiser plays (tight, aggressive, loose, passive, etc.) but I would say you need a good hand to call the bet.

I would say any A9x, KTx, QJx and above. I would forget low and mid suited connectors here, as well as pocket pairs below 8.

Disclaimer: This could be completely wrong. :)

BrianSwa 11-23-04 01:43 AM

have to disagree
 


Im going to have to disagree with you all this time I'am personally impressed with the knowledge of some of you but in my case i would fold since I really dont like that hand and im most likley behind in the hand and hate playing catch up. Now if I had and 2 painted cards or pairs I would play him heads up. Just my opinion.

hackers238 11-23-04 10:49 AM

Fold. I dont see any reason for you to play back with less than par hands. He was in early position, so he's not stealing, and he raised. Even if he is a maniac, then he probably has something to raise from early position, and you are hardly "pot comitted" with your BB.

SirFWALGMan 11-23-04 02:50 PM

No
 
You might. Or you could say "Let's wait and let the Maniac trap himself". Sometimes you get too much into wanting to get that maniac to stop raising you pre-flop, and you play A3o, and you get beat bad when AAx flops and he has the A with the 6 kicker. There is a reason that you only play KJ later. It is because KQ is out there!

Penguinfan 11-23-04 04:24 PM

Playing someone heads up with less than stellar cards in a low limit cash game is ALWAYS a bad idea, you will win the minimum or lose the max, -ev situation.

badblood44 11-23-04 04:41 PM

From a pot odds perspective, you'd be getting 3.5 - 1 on your call.

There aren't many hands that are worse than the 78:22 split the pot is laying you.


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