best way to build a Bankroll with 10$
 

I just received a letter in the mail from Pacific poker saying they put 10$ in my account. I have never deposited there before or anything. I have also never started with only 10$. Im a much better trny player than ring IMO. But i was looking for some advice on bbuilding from this small amount.

hey
 

I built $5 into $300 on pacific way back when then lost it on high levels. I won the $5 in a freeroll. The way I did it is I started at the .05/.10 limit tables and built it up it was very boring but thats how I did it. They do have NL tables now so you might want to check that out but you could lose that money in one hand so I suggest the limit tables. Its gonna take awhile but if you play smart poker you should be able to build up to the next level and keep moving up when you have the bankroll for the next level. I dont think you can cash out though until you deposit something, one of their rules I believe.

for any of you that play there
 

how are the trny players?

If you are asking a question like this when you have a bankroll of $10 you are in serious trouble.
Your best bet if you are seriously thinking of playing tourneys with a $10 bankroll should be to get into the highest limit game you can, and playing the first hand all-in.
Actually, an even better idea, would be to take the first quarter you find on the street, and put it into a slot machine. You'll have better odds to win then playing tourneys with that roll.

Brian actually gave you some good advice.
You have 3 options...
1 Take the advice and grind out a bankroll.
2 Save some money until you have a decent deposit to take advantage of first deposit bonuses.
3. Do it your way and go broke on the same day.

Good luck. You are going to need it.

Grinding it out at micro-stakes limit holdem is probably the best way to go, just because there is less variance.

W/ $10 free, I would sit at a 5c-10c NL table w/ the whole amount and let it ride. Build from there. It's only $10 bucks - if you lose it, no big deal.

I'd probably fall asleep playing 5c-10c limit.

wow
 

I have no idea why you have something against me chip. I have never said anything to offend you that i know of. In every reply to any of my posts you come across as an asshole. I traded TP mu TEC for money on ub and am doing fine there. I have no means of depositing online unless i mail a check or player transfers. I was just looking for advice since i have never started with a roll this small

well im up to
 

26.09 at the moment.

At Pacific, my experiences tell me all the players are terrible.

Re-read my post... Advice was given...
I'm sorry I didn't sugarcoat it for you.

Boo-hoo.

Sand in your vagina, Chip?

ummmm
 

Have you ever read Chip's replies to me? he isnt singleing you out man thats how he responds to posts. Im not him so I can't say for sure he dosent like you but he is humerous in all his replies to everyone on here. If you dont believe me go check out all his replies to various posts. That is just chip for you!!

What are you playing?

just re read
 

didnt want sugarcoated. But pick up a quarter and stick it in a slot machine? Go all in and let lluck override skill? To be such a good player I dont find that to be positive advice.

a 10$ nl table .05/.10 blind
 

10 handed. they are not the chatting type. Can you multi on here. I cant find a way to open 2 tables at the same time? and you will never find me if i didnt say my name.

Noooooooo
 

Watch out here he comes!!!!

I kinda disagree w/ you here, Brian. I read Chip's original reply, and I thought it was a little rough ... but hey, who am I to criticize someone for being mean?

I think it's funny that you automatically stick up for Chip (not that he needs you on his side). He's given you some nice compliaments during the last few days, so I can understand how you feel like he's your best friend. You've done it to me before.

Don't forget about a month ago, when me, TP, and Chip were all morons, the forum sucked, and all that other shit. But whatever... I'm not trying to start stuff, just pointing out that it's more than interesting considering who's side you're automatically on.

Be objective.

Not at all. I cashed out my roll from Pacific. (Even though it too 7 days.)

No multi on Pacific. Welcome to the wonderful world of antiquated software.

hey
 

Im not on anyones side..I hate everyone but the truth is most of chipfish's replies are like that. If you remember someone said the same thing about a month ago about chip being mean to them. I was just pointing out facts, not trying to make friends. If I need a friend I will buy a dog not a faceless name on the internet.

Never tried to be friend's with you either just pointing out that you are a good player. As for the moron comment well dont have excuse for that sorry though.

sorry guys
 

i didnt mean for this thread to be about me and chip. I am just looking for a way to maximize this roll so i have somewhere else to play at besides UB. I appreciate your advice brian but i am controlled and disciplined enough to play NL. I have took Aeq's advice ad sat at the .05/.10 NL tables. down to 24.09 been folding. UHOH 22 in BB later. well nasty flop AKJ

K
 

Didnt mean to say you wernt disaplined just those players suck and will run any two cards to the river and hit that 1-2 outer. That is the reason you can lose your roll in one hand not because you play bad. The best player in the world can lose that roll if some idiot hits that 1 outer on the river.

I've seen Chip give very helpful replies. He's a good player, and I give him alot of respect... so his replies aren't always mean, as you suggest.

He's done well in the TPF events, seems to post good results, and I can understand anyone would want and accept his advice. But, in this case, he's being a jerkoff. John's just asking for some help from other players... and being a moderator of this forum, I expect more - but that's just me.

true
 

but i have everyone here outchipped at least 2-1

At this point, John wants the 1 and 2 outers to chase. All day.

Ok
 

I see your point Aeq, and by no means do I think he dosent give great advice. Has given me terrific advice in the past, I just dont think he was being overly mean. But like you said thats just how I saw it, getting way off track from origional purpose of the post. John is winning a book for sure :)

you never said that
 

I was just letting you know where my game is a little. I play 1/2-2/4LHE and 1/2nl on UB. Not saying much but i know the game a little. I appreciate bot of your advice Brian and Lou.

agreed
 

Yea but with only $10 if they hit that 1-2 outer then there goes your roll. I think playing the NL game is a fine Idea, just saying it can all be gone in one hand.

Good. I hope he does.

Oops, is that another post?

no
 

Please lets not subject this thread to that kind of talk. Im just looking for some good advice. Im ut to 30 playing the .05/.10 nl tables about to call it a night. i will let everyone know how it goes. 20 more minutes for the night

hmmm
 

That talk? welcome to the forum john :) If you think that is bad should of been here a couple months back! Anywho good job on that roll!

He asked a silly question regarding his bankroll size.
I was merely guiding him away from tourneys...
I also likened playing tourneys with a $10 bankroll to that of finding a quarter and a slot machine, or putting all of it on one hand....
Basically it would be hope and prayer... (and even that wouldn't be enough).

Was it a personal attack? No.
Each time he whines that I pick on him and must not like him, he forgets to ask these questions: Did ChipFish even look to see who posted this? Does ChipFish care one way or the other? Did ChipFish actually give me good advice?
Does the good advice change if ChipFish had of given me kind words of encouragement rather than blatently keeping me from doing something stupid with my bankroll?

And Lou: Question for you.
Is there any similarity between the slots and all-in statement, and using your entire bankroll to play a multi?

You're a smart guy.
I'll just answer for you.
A) YES. All 3 are completely determined by luck.
And to answer the next question, No. Multi's are not luck-based.
But there is the element of luck that allows 1-2-or3 outers to hit.

OH.... And goodluck Bigjohnstud....
It appears you have chosen wisely. :cool:

really
 

I was being serious. I didnt think it was a silly question. Maybe you did. If thats the reason then i can the the silly answer

MTTs aren't based on luck?

Funny. Dan Harrington and other tournament / poker pros disagree with you. Skill takes you a long way, but you need you get lucky and win your fair share of coinflips.

You're a smart guy. You knew that.

And regarding all that other stuff: your advice, in my opinion, was shitty.

Let's add the word that should have been there all along but I omitted by mistake. That should make more sense now. My bad.
However, this is the point I was trying to make....
Bad Luck = No more bankroll.
Understand the advice now?

In the future, when you find yourself backpeddling, instead of "my bad," use the Latin counterpart: "mea culpa." At least you'll sound smarter.

It's late, I have to get some sleep. See you all tomorrow.

see ya im gone too
 

finishe with my roll at 39.12

Why don't you tell ChipFish to f*&^ off...LOL just kidding, you don't want the pWo to run wild on you, do you? :D

These $10 bankroll threads make my dick hurt.

BigJohn,

If you have no means to make deposits (i.e. no credit, no money, NO CHECKING ACCOUNT?) it's probably a pretty good indicator that you shouldn't be gambling.

Yeah, it's a free $10, so have fun. If you wanna play in a MTT, enjoy it. It's free money. But, unless you wanna grind it out playing micro-stakes at the limit tables, I wouldn't worry about "building a bankroll."

First off dickwad, I am not backpeddling.

Perhaps had I given poor advice to begin with; such as "tourney players at Pacific are really poor, you should play tourneys with your $10 to build your roll", then everyone would be happy. Well, Bigjohn wouldn't be happy. He'd be broke.
It's that simple.

If he's playing with a Starting bankroll of $10, he should NOT be playing tourneys.

Now then.
Advice can change with a different bankroll.
He's at roughly $40 bucks now.
If I remember correctly Pacific has $2+.25or+.5 SNGs....
Easy money there.
Now, he can make the choice of playing micro-limit ring games, or small but-in tourneys.

all chip is saying is that a big MTT tourney has so much luck involved that BigJohn would be better off putting it in a slot machine or putting it on a number on the roulette table.

He said it straight forward and everyone thinks he is insulting him. He isnt ripping the fact that he has $10... he is just saying that a MTT is compared to a slot machine or roulette or some other game with a $10 bankroll since if you cash in like 20% of MTT you are considered good and the odds of cashing in the only MTT you will be able to play with $10 is not good.

my two cents
 

Ironically enough - it seems the easiest way to turn a $10 bankroll into a $30 bankroll is start some long, drawn out debate about it and then have TP pay you $20 for generating the most posts.

It would even be MORE ironic if TP has the same contest in April - and someone could start a big debate regarding whether he should take the $20 cash or the $30 book.

I feel in some way i am contributing to the madness by adding to this thread - but i can't help myself.

Whats with the insults on the small bankrolls? I thought this was a poker forum and not a poker for people with money forum. Doesnt seem like the best way to recruit more people. Plus, I have more respect for someone who turns nothing into something, small bankroll into big; its more rewarding too if you ask him.

Free money is always appreciated
 

I whored Pacific a long time ago, then cashed out and left, so I was pleasantly surprised to receive snail mail notification of my $10 free. I've run it up to $30 playing .25/50 limit in fairly short order. I'm using the super-sophisticated strategy of folding garbage and betting premium hands hard. It's 7 to a flop right now, but I assume it will get tighter once a lot of people burn off the $10. Goal will be to make it to $50, then cash out.

Comments above in bold.

I hope John wins the book. :)

I think this thread is worth the book. Not only for the sheer number of posts, but (if you've been following it) it's much more interesting than other boring threads like: Cashing Out Habits and my "Gambler" thread.

Just my opinion. And another post. :)

Wow! Someone gets it! How did I know it would be you Omahillo?
Good job.

On the side... I also kind of hope Bigjohn wins this contest.
:)

well ive had some success with stars.... doing a lot of differnet things.. i got 10 bux from lou, got it up to 50 by playing heads up matches, then i won 1st out of 2000 in a 1$ entry tourney so i had 400 more to play with.... then i used that to pay off debts and started over with 3 bux, playign 1 cent / 2 cent blinds, built it up, played a combination of low no limit cash games and sit n gos until i had 50 again. then i just stuck w ith .25/.5 no limit, and have built it up to $350. just do whatever youre best at, but at low stakes. its a pain to build up in low LIMIT, i highly reccomend low stakes no limit cash games.

hey
 

well as I posted in another thread I started with $25 and now have over $500 starting at those low limits. Im not big fan of low limits, much rather be playing 2/4 but if you have to start somewhere then its not bad. It can be done but its very boring!!

I agree that the low-limits must be boring.
Heck, I would love to be playing $100/200 NL...
But let's face facts....
Unfortunately, that's what alot of people refuse to do.
They refuse to face facts....
They continue to play in games in which they are not properly rolled for.

Some of them win.
Many more lose.

If I were to go broke, (which will only happen when I take a shot) then I know that I would be unable to play the penny games to work my roll back.
I would put money aside and re-deposit a starting roll.

I have alot of respect for those that are willing to grind out a roll at the pennytables, without risking their roll in higher limits....
These are the players that have the "dedication" to learning the game...
These are the players to have on your buddy list, and to avoid in your games at all costs... They know the value of a Dollar.