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stormswa 04-28-07 11:17 AM

post your poker ace hud layouts
 
basicly take screen shot of your pokerace hud layouts and post them here, also explain what all your number represent. Maybe we can all get ideas for how to make our own better.


ok yes this is because I can not figure what to do with mine and want some sneaky way to get idea's without going through video's. Think its a decent idea to have this thread anyway.

stormswa 04-28-07 11:42 AM

here is my new one I think I like.
 
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ok here is what numbers mean, I dont color code mine because I dont need a green color to tell me vp$ip of 60.1 is bad. I got this layout from someone on 2+2 and added a stat of my own but I like it.



vp$ip
preflop raise
cold call preflop
aggression per street, flop, turn, river
went to showdown
and white is money won and number of hands, I added the money won but rest was someone elses layout.

JDMcNugent7 04-28-07 01:42 PM

mine doesnt work anymore
if theres action at the table, likecards being dealt, me pressing the call button, etc... the stats disapear, so basically they are flashing the whole time and its basically impossible to ever see them.

anyone know how i can fix it or what it would be?

MAYHEM45 04-28-07 01:59 PM

Turn on flicker free drawing.

stormswa 04-28-07 02:38 PM

yes
 
what he said.


come on kids get those screen shots up lets see your number placing abilities.

JDMcNugent7 04-28-07 04:14 PM

well now i got it to stop blinking, thanks
but is there a way to make it work for when i make the tables smaller?
it looks horrible, the stats are in the chat area and off the table and everything

stormswa 04-28-07 04:53 PM

not sure
 

look at mine, mine seem to work good. The only thing it blocks is the cards at showdown but of course pokerace hud shows me the hands anyway so it dont matter.

you can put the numbers wherever you want in your editor.

oh I know what you mean, when you tile them. Not sure about that, I only play like 4 max at a time so it dosent bother me .

Nikita 04-28-07 04:54 PM

I'm not playing at the moment and probably won't get a chance until later today. When I do, I will screenshot and post.

Nikita 04-28-07 06:26 PM

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So my numbers are as follows:
VPIP/PFR/WtSD/Agg Freq tot/CB/Folds to CB
Fold to flop/turn/river bet/Net $ won/Tot Hands

I would still like to tweak mine as well, but I haven't thought of other good stats to add and I don't want to take away much of what I already have.

Talking Poker 04-28-07 08:45 PM

Are you using a really old version, by chance? I mean, did you update your software after Full Tilt made the resizeable tables? Cause if not, well, you obviously have to do that.

sjay2k 04-29-07 02:18 AM

ace hud?

Talking Poker 04-29-07 03:06 AM

You're kidding, right?


OK, surely you are kidding. Then again, you've never made us a video (jerk!), so maybe not...

Invigilator 04-29-07 11:14 PM

PS PAH numbers?
 
I am just learning to read this (free trial). I am assuming the numbers in the bottom right are mine, since there are none by my name? (Pokerstars)

I can't find any reference to the colour coding for reading the numbers :confused:

Talking Poker 04-29-07 11:20 PM

You need to set that all up yourself:
Options/Layout Manager

Pick the game you are playing and put whatever stats you want whereever you want them - yours too. Then color code them however you like too. Piece of cake.

Invigilator 04-30-07 08:23 AM

thanks
 

I have the day off today, so I'll give it a try.

Thanks

Robbie Robb 04-30-07 09:11 AM

I *think* with the default layout, the numbers in the bottom right are actually the table averages for the other players (does not include your numbers). If you want to show your numbers you need to go into the layout selection and for each number you want to see on yourself you need to select the 'show mine' option. I think, by default, it plops them in the middle of the screen then you have to move them where you want them. using the HyperSimple @ Stars I have the numbers up at the top where the "dealer" is.

Invigilator 04-30-07 10:10 AM

k
 
Thank you sir.

Nikita 04-30-07 10:42 AM

To add to this, in my screen shot, you can see my numbers are in the bottom right. I got rid of the table averages. I figured those number aren't necessary to see while I'm playing. I only look at those numbers just before I join a table.

sjay2k 04-30-07 04:55 PM

thanks i will definitely check it out when i come home and start playing again

Invigilator 05-01-07 06:27 PM

HUD numbers advice
 
Okay, I figured out how to set it up. But... what numbers? Can you recommend a top 5-ish to help me figure out what will be useful.

I am guessing I want...

1. VPIP - this lets me know how often they are putting money in? (hands played?)

2. Preflop Raise

3. Post flop aggression
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but what else?

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also...

What is the difference between Bet Flop and Continuation Bet?

stormswa 05-01-07 06:30 PM

well
 


continuation bet is when someone bets preflop then leads flop.


betting flop is just that someone that just bets flop without betting preflop. so if you limped or cold called preflop then lead out flop.


as for numbers I said which ones I like but just mess around and see what you like. I dont use aggression factor because I have mine done by street.

Talking Poker 05-01-07 08:39 PM

Watch some people's videos - almost everyone explains their PAHud layouts early on.

A CB is when someone raises preflop and then leads at the flop. Bet Flop is any time someone bets the flop, regardless of the preflop action.

IMO, the three you listed are absolute must have numbers. I'd recommend starting small and then slowly adding additional stats to what you are already comfortable with - that way, it's easier to remember what you have set up and where it is on the screen. I also like to see how much $ a guy is up or down, the number of hands I have on him (this is another must, so you know what sample size you are dealing with). I use his CB%, and I see what % of the time he FOLDS to bets on each street - most people don't use this, but I like it. It fits my style. Street by street aggression is nice and something I probably should add. Oh, and I also have "Cold Calls Preflop" in there - this is an excellet one stop donkey indicator. And of course, I have pretty much everything color coded too.

I haven't shot a video with my layout for a long time. Maybe I'll do one soon. I did post some screen shots in this thread last week or so:

I am loving my card mods, btw.

Invigilator 05-01-07 10:12 PM

Thanks, I forgot about the video's. Once I get this all figured out (and am comfortable with it) I will have to learn how to shoot a video. (that way I can share my sultry "radio voice" with the forum) :cool:

Talking Poker 05-01-07 11:28 PM

There's not much to figure out. You simply need to be able to follow instructions:


:cheers:

stormswa 05-02-07 12:37 AM


I didnt want to post in the other thread since it wasnt active but I absolutley love the new card mods!!!! thanks.

Talking Poker 05-02-07 01:10 AM

And here I thought everyone hated them and I did that work for nothing...

Invigilator 05-02-07 06:58 PM

thanks
 
Thanks for the link. What I mean by getting this all figured out, is how to make effective use of the hud in my game.

stormswa 05-02-07 07:09 PM

well
 
im guessing you don't know what the numbers mean then right?

go to the help files and follow the links to find out what all the numbers mean, a lot of numbers are good as stand alone but some work really good together.

Like VPIP and TOTAL aggression, a person running a like 35vpip and very aggressive would be like a LAG style player. So those are the players you would just check your monster hands to and let them do the betting, those are the players you would want to check and let them catch up etc etc.

the ones with like a cold call very high and very little aggression, those are the players you want to value bet all the way and stuff like that.

But there are tons of numbers and some people like different things, I myself dont like total aggression numbers becuase I like to know street by street so I can make the best decisions per street. Its really a personal prefrence.

Invigilator 05-02-07 07:26 PM

Thanks
 
Thanks man. I have an idea about some of the numbers, but no doubt there will be a learning curve. I am going to put in some time in the next day or so using VPIP, Preflop Raise, # hands, Aggression by each street, and continuation bet.

I will go through the help pages, and I will probably have some questions about using different numbers in combination in the next week.

But first things, first...

gotta put the kids to bed :thumbsup:

stormswa 05-02-07 07:56 PM

np
 
have no problem sharing what I know so dont hesitate to ask. I know when I started with pokerace hud I flooded this forum with questions. But also you could do a search on the forum and you will dig up some of my old threads where I asked tons about it.


pshabi post, great post, unreal great post.




TP post on converting you pokertracker database, do this now before it gets too big



when i didnt know anything about it




this is a must if you want to play on full tilt





ok thats alot for u to read.....get to work.




on a sidenote my drop down stats havnt been coming up for about a week now, anyone else?

Invigilator 05-02-07 08:39 PM

on the fly update...
 
I am currently playing $25 max on PS and am up about 30 bucks. I am also happy to say that I am playing tighter than normal. (I am enrolled in LAG anonymous. I am on step 8 of the 12 step recovery program).

The hand sample is too small at the moment to make many numbers particularly useful but PFR and continuation bet have already factored into 2 profitable decisions. Actually PFR kept me out of one pot, but I want to make sure I have the general idea correct.


am I right in thinking...

a low PFR indicates that the player is more likely to have a premium hand when the enter with a preflop raise?

A high PFR indicates that the player is more likely to raise with a wider variety if hands?

Invigilator 05-02-07 09:18 PM

end result
 
94 hands, up a total of $30.50 (pretty much all of it in the first 30 hands) I like the HUD, but i recognize that it will take time to learn how to use it properly. got some reading to do...

:( +:twocents: =:cheers:

stormswa 05-02-07 09:27 PM


in my opinion a low PFR to me means bad player because if you enter a pot your really should be raising.

BUT

your sample size is way too low if you dont have at least over 100 hands on them the numbers dont really mean much. BUT no just because someone raises a little dosent mean they have premiem. What position they are in, have they folded alot of hands? is their VPIP low.

A low vpip and a low PFR and a pretty good sample size would send red flags up to me and I would fold my AQ there. A high VPIP and a low or high PFR I might raise my AQ or maybe even just call if he had been raising alot. If I raise my AQ and a high VPIP and high PFR raises me that is a time when I might pu in a 3 bet because I know that he dosnt have to have premiem to do that because he has been playing real loose and I want to make him make a hard decision.

Its like a hand I played with talking poker a little while ago, I raised from the button with Q9 and tp from the button put in a raise. Now I had folded to this same play 2 times before but I knew that TP was a solid player and he knew that I didnt have to have a big hand there to raise. So I knew if I 3 bet him there he would have to give me credit for a hand. Now I would never do that against a guy with high vpip and high cold call % , I didnt know TP's numbers there but from watching his videos I knew he would either have to fold there or shove and I put him to the hard decision and that is what you want to do in poker. You do not want to be the guy calling you want to be the one making your opponents have to make hard decisions. Now of course with my Q9 I was either folding to a shove or taking pot down there, if he did call which I was positive he wouldnt I could easily put him on something like AA or KK or at worse QQ and I could play the flop accordingly. That is where the numbers come in play, use them to affect how you play flop textures.

Invigilator 05-02-07 10:51 PM

Wow, this is particular relationship is going be an interesting study. Thanks for the insight.

stormswa 05-19-07 03:56 PM

hey
 
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hate digging up old threads but it beats starting new one.

here is new layout and mods


1st line

vpip
pfr
cold call
aggression postflop

2nd line

cbets
cbets turn
call cbet
raises cbet

3rd line

total hands
total +/-
goes to showdown
wins at showdown

Invigilator 05-19-07 04:04 PM

coming soon to thread near you...
 
I finally have PT and the HUD going good for me. only have a few thousand hands though.

I want to consider other numbers, but that will come in time.

I will post an image of my layout the next time I am in a cash game.

stormswa 05-19-07 04:06 PM

in my 6 max numbers I could actually fit one more line up of stats but no clue what else to put. I think these stats pretty much give me all I need to know.

Invigilator 05-19-07 04:30 PM

In PS full ring, I am currently using

VPIP
PFR
# hands
aggression by street
Net won/lost
CB

stormswa 05-19-07 04:32 PM

yea I got all them, I actually took out my street aggression and just have it post flop aggression which basically just sorts the streets by 1 number.

Invigilator 05-20-07 05:17 PM

Finally
 
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Here is mine,

I remembered to take a screen shot as I scooped this nice little pot.

anywho,

VPIP---PFR---# of Hands
FA----TA-----RA
CB-----Net Won/Lost


**if you prefer using street A=aggression instead of overall aggression, why?

If you prefer the opposite, why?

image caption:
"And that's how you play Aces.
Yeah, you make Kings run into them"
:)

stormswa 05-20-07 05:44 PM

1. I need room for other stats
2. I dont really feel I need to know street by street ( used to think I did) as long as I know how aggressive they are postflop.
3. I really like being able to have my C-bet block of stats in there.


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